Procomp 7089 hubcentric or not?

Dashe · 11-05-2009, 12:51 PM

I searched for this info, and didn't come up with a definite answer so I'm posting here. i apologize if I just missed something. I am about to order some 7089's as they are running a discount and offering free shipping at 4wheelparts.com. They are offered in hubcentric and non-hubcentric (lug centric I assume) models. I'm pretty sure I need the non-hubcentric ones for a 2009 DC, but I want to check before I drop $400+ on them. Thanks for your help.

hugmynuts · 11-05-2009, 12:55 PM

lug centric for our trucks.

PreRunnerSeth · 11-05-2009, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dashe

I searched for this info, and didn't come up with a definite answer so I'm posting here. i apologize if I just missed something. I am about to order some 7089's as they are running a discount and offering free shipping at 4wheelparts.com. They are offered in hubcentric and non-hubcentric (lug centric I assume) models. I'm pretty sure I need the non-hubcentric ones for a 2009 DC, but I want to check before I drop $400+ on them. Thanks for your help.

For the 05+ Tacoma they only come in a lug centric version. Just make sure you get the shanked lugs.

Dashe · 11-05-2009, 12:57 PM

excellent. thanks guys. are the stock lugs shanked?

mjp2 · 11-05-2009, 01:02 PM

Get new lugs nuts, if not from the vendor selling you the wheels then from Gorilla.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/

Dashe · 11-05-2009, 01:27 PM

wheels are ordered. can anyone direct me to the specs for those lug nuts?

cntstan · 11-05-2009, 01:50 PM

These are the ones I ordered:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/12...&t_pn=PXA21124

they work fine.

mjp2 · 11-05-2009, 01:54 PM

12 x 1.5 acorns with the socket. They even have black ones to go with the rims.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.di....locks.page_13

Did you want/order center caps? I still have mine new in the box and never installed them.

PreRunnerSeth · 11-05-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mjp2

12 x 1.5 acorns with the socket. They even have black ones to go with the rims.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.di....locks.page_13

Did you want/order center caps? I still have mine new in the box and never installed them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cntstan

These are the ones I ordered:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/12...&t_pn=PXA21124

they work fine.

The lugs in the first link are not correct. I know this is what 4WP will sell you for this application but they are not correct. there has been lots of discussion on this one. These wheels are lug centric. standard acorn style lugs dont always center the hole in the wheel over the lug well. Plus they dont provide much thread coverage on the tacoma. you need shanked lug nuts that fit over the lug and in the hole in the wheel like the ones in the upper right in the second link. these provide much better thread coverage and center the hole in the wheel with the lug. do a search ive gone into this before with these wheels. unfortunately no one has found this type of lug nut in black.

mjp2 · 11-05-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PreRunnerSeth

The lugs in the first link are not correct. I know this is what 4WP will sell you for this application but they are not correct. there has been lots of discussion on this one. These wheels are lug centric. standard acorn style lugs dont always center the hole in the wheel over the lug well. Plus they dont provide much thread coverage on the tacoma. you need shanked lug nuts that fit over the lug and in the hole in the wheel like the ones in the upper right in the second link. these provide much better thread coverage and center the hole in the wheel with the lug. do a search ive gone into this before with these wheels. unfortunately no one has found this type of lug nut in black.

Do you have any close-up pictures? If you do, I'd like to see the difference between the two where they make contact with the wheel.

cntstan · 11-05-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PreRunnerSeth

The lugs in the first link are not correct. I know this is what 4WP will sell you for this application but they are not correct. there has been lots of discussion on this one. These wheels are lug centric. standard acorn style lugs dont always center the hole in the wheel over the lug well. Plus they dont provide much thread coverage on the tacoma. you need shanked lug nuts that fit over the lug and in the hole in the wheel like the ones in the upper right in the second link. these provide much better thread coverage and center the hole in the wheel with the lug. do a search ive gone into this before with these wheels. unfortunately no one has found this type of lug nut in black.

Now I'm confused. Are you saying the ones in MJP2's link (part# 21138ETXL) are the correct lugs? If so, I guess I screwed up and need to order some. I haven't noticed any ill effects from the pro comp ones.............yet.

Dashe · 11-05-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjp2

12 x 1.5 acorns with the socket. They even have black ones to go with the rims.

http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.di....locks.page_13

Did you want/order center caps? I still have mine new in the box and never installed them.

are you talking about item number 21138BC? (black 12x1.5)

as far as the center caps, i think im going to go without. i kinda like the look better, and it'll be one less thing to tear up on the trails. Thanks for the offer though.

YotaDan · 11-05-2009, 02:55 PM

Just so you guys know. We carry many different styles of Lug Nuts rom Gorilla. Both in regular chrome and black chrome. The ET (extended thread) nuts come in chrome and reach down into the wheel so that you get more bite on the stud.

PreRunnerSeth · 11-05-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by YotaDan

Just so you guys know. We carry many different styles of Lug Nuts rom Gorilla. Both in regular chrome and black chrome. The ET (extended thread) nuts come in chrome and reach down into the wheel so that you get more bite on the stud.

This is the lug nut im talking about. they also help to center the wheel on the lug better than just the tapered type. In the gorilla link above its the ET-XL style. See how there is a shank on the thread side that goes into the hole on the wheel.

PreRunnerSeth · 11-05-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cntstan

Now I'm confused. Are you saying the ones in MJP2's link (part# 21138ETXL) are the correct lugs? If so, I guess I screwed up and need to order some. I haven't noticed any ill effects from the pro comp ones.............yet.

You may never see problems. but, without the shank its easier to misalign the wheel and cause problems as well as Dan said you dont get as much bite on the lug.

I will try to do a graphic to show the difference.

Heres a primitive graphic... to show. think of it as a cut away side view.

Blue would be the wheel
black the hub
green the lug
red shanked lug nut
Yellow unshanked lug nut

You can see that the unshanked lug nut relies on the taper to center the wheel hole over the lug. friction can sometimes prevent it from centering completely. the shanked lug nut the shank centers the wheel hole over the lug. this is especially important in a lug centric wheel. you can also see that the shank covers more of the lug providing a stronger connection to the hub.

mjp2 · 11-06-2009, 07:20 AM

Great info and excellent explanation! Looks like I was shipped sub-optimal lugs when I bought my wheels. I'll be upgrading in the near future.

Thanks!!

PreRunnerSeth · 11-06-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjp2

Great info and excellent explanation! Looks like I was shipped sub-optimal lugs when I bought my wheels. I'll be upgrading in the near future.

Thanks!!

unfortunately gorilla doesn't make this type in black. so youre kinda stuck with chrome... but my chrome lugs are actually growing on me a little. just a tiny bit of accent to the wheels then just all darkness.

mjp2 · 11-06-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PreRunnerSeth

unfortunately gorilla doesn't make this type in black. so youre kinda stuck with chrome... but my chrome lugs are actually growing on me a little. just a tiny bit of accent to the wheels then just all darkness.

If you've ever seen my truck you'll realize that lug color isn't much of a concern. My main focus is making sure stuff stops breaking every time I use the thing.

I upgraded my wheel studs to longer ones earlier this year. I just posted details in this thread earlier this morning:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/whe...ml#post1096472

Dashe · 11-12-2009, 08:38 PM

Stoked! Shanked lug nuts on the way too. Can't wait!

cntstan · 11-12-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dashe

Stoked! Shanked lug nuts on the way too. Can't wait!

POST PICS..............when they're on of course

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11-05-2009, 12:51 PM	#1
Dashe Member Name: David Joined: Sep 2009, #22905 Location: Charleston Gender: Male Posts: 50 Black SR5 2009 Double Cab Automatic Leveling kit, add-a-leaf, BFGoodrich A/T 285/75/16, Flowmaster 50 series with dual side exit pipes	Procomp 7089 hubcentric or not? I searched for this info, and didn't come up with a definite answer so I'm posting here. i apologize if I just missed something. I am about to order some 7089's as they are running a discount and offering free shipping at 4wheelparts.com. They are offered in hubcentric and non-hubcentric (lug centric I assume) models. I'm pretty sure I need the non-hubcentric ones for a 2009 DC, but I want to check before I drop $400+ on them. Thanks for your help.

11-05-2009, 01:50 PM	#7
cntstan Make the most of it! Joined: Nov 2008, #10998 Location: Wisconsin now, North Carolina will always be HOME Gender: Male Posts: 290 08 DC SR5 4X4 ; 94 Ford Bronco 2008 Double Cab Automatic 6 cyl. 3" Toytec coilovers, rear AAL,satoshi'd grill,ARE topper,TRD exhaust, All Pro winch bumper, Warn winch, All Pro skid, Pro comp 7089's, Supersprings	These are the ones I ordered: http://www.4wheelparts.com/Wheels/12...&t_pn=PXA21124 they work fine. __________________

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YotaDan Dan Joined: Apr 2009, #15461 Location: Oregon Gender: Male Posts: 67	Just so you guys know. We carry many different styles of Lug Nuts rom Gorilla. Both in regular chrome and black chrome. The ET (extended thread) nuts come in chrome and reach down into the wheel so that you get more bite on the stud. __________________ Wheeler's Off-Road, Inc. Dan Sales Associate Warehouse Manager dan@wheelersoffroad.com

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hugmynuts Senior Member Joined: Jun 2008, #7401 Location: hampton, va Gender: Male Posts: 236 2006 DC TRD Off-Road 4x4 2006 Double Cab Automatic 4point0	lug centric for our trucks.

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Dashe Member Name: David Joined: Sep 2009, #22905 Location: Charleston Gender: Male Posts: 50 Black SR5 2009 Double Cab Automatic Leveling kit, add-a-leaf, BFGoodrich A/T 285/75/16, Flowmaster 50 series with dual side exit pipes	excellent. thanks guys. are the stock lugs shanked?

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mjp2 Living vicariously through myself Name: Milton Juevos Portimous II Joined: Feb 2007, #924 Location: NJ Gender: Dude Posts: 6,001 '06 TRD Access Cab, v6, 6-speed 2006 Access Cab Manual 4.0 Painted grill	Get new lugs nuts, if not from the vendor selling you the wheels then from Gorilla. http://www.gorilla-auto.com/

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Dashe Member Name: David Joined: Sep 2009, #22905 Location: Charleston Gender: Male Posts: 50 Black SR5 2009 Double Cab Automatic Leveling kit, add-a-leaf, BFGoodrich A/T 285/75/16, Flowmaster 50 series with dual side exit pipes	wheels are ordered. can anyone direct me to the specs for those lug nuts?

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mjp2 Living vicariously through myself Name: Milton Juevos Portimous II Joined: Feb 2007, #924 Location: NJ Gender: Dude Posts: 6,001 '06 TRD Access Cab, v6, 6-speed 2006 Access Cab Manual 4.0 Painted grill	12 x 1.5 acorns with the socket. They even have black ones to go with the rims. http://www.gorilla-auto.com/small.di....locks.page_13 Did you want/order center caps? I still have mine new in the box and never installed them.

11-06-2009, 07:20 AM	#16
mjp2 Living vicariously through myself Name: Milton Juevos Portimous II Joined: Feb 2007, #924 Location: NJ Gender: Dude Posts: 6,001 '06 TRD Access Cab, v6, 6-speed 2006 Access Cab Manual 4.0 Painted grill	Great info and excellent explanation! Looks like I was shipped sub-optimal lugs when I bought my wheels. I'll be upgrading in the near future. Thanks!!