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TIRE SIZE with SUSPENSION TSB

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by 1BADTOY, May 28, 2008.

  1. May 29, 2008 at 10:28 AM
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    x2. i believe there are 2 assembly plants for our tacos. 1 in cali and 1 in mexico. the 1st digit of vin# tells you where it was assembled. 3 is mexico and 5 is cali
     
  2. May 29, 2008 at 10:33 AM
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    YOU ARE CORRECT.. i just checked and i'm an idiot.. the OEM shocks ARE indeed yellow.

    i also spoke with the same service guy and he said he made a mistake and that they will only be replacing the springs.. so, as i'm sure you already knew, you are right again (you gotta be loving this).

    He DID HOWEVER say that if i brought in the front shocks they would put them on for me and i wouldn't have to pay for another allignment.

    do you think i could go up two tire sizes or just one by purchasing the front adjustable 5100 shocks? and if i do that would i have to replace the rear shocks also?

    thanks again for all your help!
     
  3. May 29, 2008 at 12:28 PM
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    umm.... they will have no need to do a front alignment! and he rear is aligned via a pin on the leaf spring to the frame so no free alignment unless your dealer is real cool:rolleyes:
     
  4. May 29, 2008 at 2:15 PM
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    thank you for your input.. you are also correct.. the service guy pretty much said the same thing after correcting himself.. he said i would have to pay for the labor for installing the shocks (roughly 130 per shock) and that the allignment IS included for free because the specs are different after raising the rear... in your opinion.. is it ok to put the adjustable 5100's up front and leave the OME in rear?

    is the 265/70/17's with a tougher tread (i'm looking at michelin LTX A/T 2) a noticeable difference from the stock 265/65/17's? or would you suggest forking out the extra dough to raise it just to get the extra size up? i guess i'm really just looking for the most affordable GOOD LOOK i can right now and i can always raise it later..
     
  5. May 29, 2008 at 2:32 PM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    u still get the alignment b/c if u read the tsb, they change the settings for the camber/caster/etc
     
  6. May 29, 2008 at 2:36 PM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    u can leave the stock rear shocks back there until u start raising the rear higher than just the tsb. i added the 2" blocks on top of the tsb and i was fully extending the stock shocks. instead of replacing the rears, i just added some $6 shock stud extenders and they work great. i even took the truck offroading through some descent rock trails and i had no issues at all. as for the tires, bumping up to a 70 series will fill it in a lil better than stock. my tires are not much taller than those 265/70's and .5" narrower and they look fine w/ my 2.5" up front and tsb+2" out back. u cant have too much clearance...lol
     
  7. May 29, 2008 at 2:58 PM
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    TRUE DAT!! i think i'll go with just the shocks up front for now.. sound like you're pretty satisfied with your setup.. any suggestions on where i can findem for cheap? are you happy with the brand or do you wish you would have tried something else? any idea how much they run?
     
  8. May 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM
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    the trd bilsteins are way better than the toyota shocks that come stock on the non-trd's. u can replace the rears if u want to, but i wouldnt worry about it until it was lifted in the rear
     
  9. May 30, 2008 at 5:44 AM
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    great i got screwed! Heart City Toyota in Elkhart did not do an alignment and i even asked the mechanic/technician working on the vehicle and he said there is no need to do an alignment on a leaf spring change(didnt make sense to me)
    but what you said makes sense they did increase caster, as well as driveline angle and camber so now i'm calling to give em' hell
    Thanks!:D

    now that i think about this how in the hell would one adjust camber/caster in this set up?
    it just does'nt make sense does'nt the leaf spring determine camber/caster in relevance to the frame/axle?

    "An alignment inspection and adjustment is required after the installation of the new rear
    leaf springs and four shocks. The NEW alignment specifications are provided below."
     
  10. May 30, 2008 at 8:56 AM
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    ok so here's another question.. suppose i wanted to go the 2 inches right off the bat..

    would it be ok to add the 1" lift rear block kit from toytec to the tsb suspension to get an overall extra 2 inches in rear and set the front adjustable bistein 5100 shocks at 2"?.. this would technically give the truck 2" all around and keep my truck level.. RIGHT?? here is a link to the 1" block i'm referring to...
     
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    well if u do 2" all around, the truck will still be higher in the back. if u want it to actually be level, u'll need to set the 5100's to 2.5" and have just the tsb in the back. and there is no 2" setting on the 5100's...the closest settings are 2.5 and 1.75" i think.
     
  12. May 30, 2008 at 10:00 AM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...

    the four shocks only get replaced on the non-trd trucks...u already have the trd shocks, so all u should have received was the 4 leafs springs and a new alighment w/ the new camber/caster/toe-in settings. my dealership was dumb and replaced my shocks as well. i told them it was a trd and showed them what i needed...but w/ it being debadged, i guess they didnt care to notice all the other sport options
     
  13. May 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM
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    i was under the impression that the tsb will add an inch to the rear height.. so by adding another inch i'll have 2" total in the rear..

    then in the front setting the shock at 2" would make it level (i guess 1.75" or 2.5" would have to do since 2 is not an option)

    .. so what you are saying (correct me if i'm wrong).. JUST doing the tsb, which will raise about one inch alone (correct?) AND raising the front 2.5" will make it all level? please forgive my ignorance on this topic, i don't think i understand the one inch (tsb in rear) and 2.5 inches (front shock) being equal..

    side note.. i plan to order the shocks from toytec for 199.00 this weekend unless you recommend another place..

    thanks for your help and patience..
     
  14. May 30, 2008 at 12:25 PM
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    the back is higher than your front right now. if you raise the back and the front the same height, the back will still sit higher. if you want to level the front and the back, you need to not add the blocks and just raise the front
     
  15. May 30, 2008 at 1:49 PM
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    oh i see... is the general consensus that it looks better leveled out or that it looks meaner and tougher with the back a little higher? think i'm going with 265/70/17's (an inch taller tire) so that may make a diff too.
     
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    just a matter of opinion. i like both. mine is level now and i like the way it looks but i wouldnt mind having the back end about an inch higher
     
  17. May 30, 2008 at 2:04 PM
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    cool thanks.. i kind of like the stance it has now.. just too low. do you think i could get away with just setting the front to 1.75" and still have room for the larger tire without rub? i read earlier that it might be a stiffer ride with it pegged all the way out at 2.5 either way i'll still be getting at least 2" in height after i add the inch taller tire right?
     
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    u can run that 265/70 w/o lifting it at all. so whatever u set it to is all for u man. 2.5" will level it out...anythign less will have the back sitting up higher than the front. i had mine leveled for a while, but didnt like the look of it, so i threw a 2" block back there to lift it up
     
  19. May 30, 2008 at 2:41 PM
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    thanks, that actually tells me i will probably prefer the back slightly higher too. so could i actually put a 265/75 (265 is width right?) on there and set at 1.75" without trouble?

    stock is 265/65/r17
     
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    yes, the 265 is width. a 265/75 should fit at 1.75" i would think
     

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