Is The 2015 Chevy Colorado In Danger Of Becoming A Failed Experiment?

Regardless of if it was the right thing or wrong thing I love the new corvette and that would not have been possible without the bailout

 

You do know we took an $11 BILLION dollar loss right?? That doesn't even include the opportunity cost of floating them a free $50 billion dollar loan...

The government may no longer own them but GM will always be in debt to us because of it.

 

What is not remembered is the 13B we gave to bail out AC Delco and the 16B we gave to bail out GMAC now Ally bank. We made money off of Ally.

 

Test drove a Colorado and a Canyon today. My conclusion is they are a 2015 Tacoma SR5 with a few upgrades and a $4000 higher MSRP.

The top trim levels (LT and SLT) are comparable feature-wise to the SR5 but with some better things - cornerstep bumper, 4-way power driver seat, 6spd autotrans w/manual shift, 4 mpg better (17/24).

The V6 has more HP, same torque with peak at 4k RPM. The V6 sounds like a 4cyl to me. All versions are about four inches longer than the Gen2 Tacoma, same width. It's pretty quiet on the highway, I can't really say if it's greatly quieter than the Taco.

There is nothing really outstanding about the twins compared to the Gen2 Taco. The Canyon is available with full leather, but the MSRP is up around $40k for those SLT models.

There is no rear slider, but the rear window is heated.

If I was in the market for another truck I wouldn't buy one, I'd wait for the 2016 Tacoma. Probably will match it or better it in every way, especially offroad capability right off of the lot even in the SR5 trim.

 

For my part Chevy can stick there autos where the sun does not shine.

 

I saw a black z71 the other day and it looked pretty nice. I wouldn't buy one considering how GM has a reputation that will take heavy discounts, free exotic dancers, lots of free gas and my own personal mechanic to fix..... Maybe not the dancers but definitely free gas and a mechanic.

 

I despised leather interior until I got this truck. One thing I notcied about them is that they are very light on the seats color, so any little stain you may have on your pants or shirt will transfer right over. I really need to buy some wetokle neoprene seat covers that they make for these trucks, because with all th wheeling I do, I am starting to stain the interior with dirt and junk. You may not leave it stock for long after you hear all that clicking from the rear end (axle wrap). Though when that time comes, you'll cross that bridge when you get to it.

 

Seemingly very biased review, but good nonetheless. Oh, and a rear sliding window is now available as an option.

 

Everyone is biased, unless you've never owned a truck before and yet know everything you should be looking for in a truck....

 

I just did an online comparison between the 2015 Z71 and the 2015 Tacoma TRD offroad. MSRP was slightly higher for the Z71 and of course we know the Z71 doesn't have ATRAC and has one inch less ground clearance. And the rear shock mounts on the Z71 are in the middle of the axles.

A couple other notes - the Chevy website lists the overall length of a DCSB as 212.7 inches without rear bumper. Why they would list the length excluding the rear bumper I don't know.

There really isn't much on the new GM twins that screams buy me. Z71 has 4-way power front buckets for driver and passenger. That's ok with me, but when I drove the Canyon the power tilt driver seat wouldn't work at first, I had to jimmy it a few times before it engaged. Also, the Colorado Z71 I saw at another dealer the gas door would not close. The gas doors are remote opened from the cab, can't be opened from the outside. If it won't close, will it open?

The twins seem to be selling well, and as people have said seem to appeal to people that want a car/truck combo. I'm happy if they have success, but they're not for me.

 

I'm not all that biased toward the Toyota. But things like an inverter available I like, I don't see that on the Chevy or GMC. HD battery, 130 amp alternator with the tow package. The salesman couldn't say if they had the upgraded power with the tow package and I don't see it on the website. Tranny cooler, engine oil cooler I don't see that either.

 

I have never owned a truck before, but have owned a wide variety of other vehicles. For work, I have had a variety of trucks, including a couple Ford's, a Chevy, a couple Rams/ Dodge's, and a Tacoma. I'm also a bit of an Automotive enthusiast. So I am relatively unbiased, yet fairly knowledgeable. However, one should still be able to at least somewhat objective regardless of what brand of vehicle they drive and generally prefer.

 

You are very biased based on what you have drove and your driving experiences. Those flavor you to look at certain aspects of trucks and not others. To be unbiased, you would have to have no previous bias to draw upon. The fact that you have drove several trucks and brands before and have likes, dislikes, and experiences with a few brands is a BIAS that you will draw decisions from.

I suggest you review this quick article to get the jist of what a bias is or re read a science text book from your local high school.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias

The amount of "unbiased" people talking about the Tacoma or the Colorado on this thread somewhere between zero and zilch. Admitting you have a bias and recognizing that bias allows you to interpret the trucks more accurately.

 

My work truck is a Chevy and I wouldn't buy one. Drive the piss out of it and blew the planetary in trans just shy of wty.
Has 129k now.

 

So tinkering in the garage working on my bike for upcoming season, roommate's, who is an avid GM fanboy, friend comes over, jumping for joy about the new chevy colorado he just put a deposit down, being the taco lover I am I listened in as the two have a GM fanboy bromance moment, guy paid full MSRP $36k for a crew cab z71 that dosent even have a tow package, transmission cooler, etc. Anywho he asked how old my Tacoma was I mentioned brand new he said oh, "toyota really needs to work on those", I mentioned they're proven reliability and that she's perfect the way she is. At this point I didn't feel it necessary to refrain from letting him know the list of reported issues with the new truck he just purchased for full price in which he responded, "well thats what a warranty is for". I know cool story brah, just felt like sharing. And now you know why GM remains in business.

 

I could never pay full price on a Chevrolet. What makes me laugh is when you go on the Chevrolet Canada site and it offers you $3,000 off a Silverado, but only $750 off a Colorado. You can even get $10,000 off a Silverado if it's a "true north edition". WTF would you pay full price for a Colorado when a Silverado in the nearly same trim is the same amount of money . Here's some screen shots for those fanboys who will, once again, claim that I am lying or embellishing . I've overlayed all the ads so you can contrast and compare, then throw out your explination of why Chevrolet is using brilliant marketing.

 

I'll leave this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfHtcUZXljw

Did you friend articulate himself this well...

-Jon

 

Although I definitely agree with you that you should never pay full price for a chevy, your Silverado/Colorado comparison is a bit off. The Colorado starts at 21k. Fully loaded its 35k-37k. Silverado starts at 28k, fully loaded is upwards of 50k. I am almost willing to bet that the 10k discount does not apply to the 28k basic silverado. That 10k is probably only on top of the line models priced at 50k+. Meaning the discount might make the Silverado a better bang for the buck, but you still aren't going to walk away paying less for a similarly equipped Silverado.

With all of that said, you also have to consider something else, a lot of people may desire one over the other. Just because the Colorado and Silverado are both trucks, and just because the Silverado is bigger, can tow/haul more, has a bigger engine, is more capable, has more options, etc. doesn't mean it is automatically more desirable. I have mentioned on here before that I am in the unique situation where I can get a fully loaded brand new F150 for about the same price as a brand new limited Tacoma, if not a few grand cheaper, because of the Ford family D plan discount. I do not want a full size because of many reasons (space in garage/driveway, don't need to pull a space shuttle around, etc.) so I will pay more for the Tacoma and get less of a truck. I know comparing Tacoma to F150 is apples to oranges, but I am just saying some people may be willing to pay more for the smaller truck, if it fits their needs.

 

The 10K applies to a true north edition truck, which is an upgraded SLE trim. The SLE truck in a crew cab is normally worth about 47K after delivery and fees. Take the 10K off that, since the 10K includes those fee's being waived, and you get about 37K. My wife and I priced out a SLE and a Z71 Colorado a few months ago. The SLE was 37K with similar options to the true north edition and a base Z71 was 38K. Apples to apples, right now with discounts Chevy will give you a Silverado for the price of a Colorado. Anyone who pays that price for the Colorado and is happy about it needs to have there head examined.

As for the Tacoma versus F150 I totally agree that it's all about what you want whenever you choose mid sized trucks over full sized trucks. Ford isn't making a mid size for NA right now though and Toyota doesn't discount the Tundra to the price of the Tacoma. That's my point. Chevy is over pricing the Colorado and anyone who thinks paying MSRP on one is a good deal is insane.

 

I'd be willing to bet both my education and intellect FAR exceed yours, based on your pathetic attempts at demonstrating your own. Please don't try to lecture me about what bias is. You're clearly not qualified. Regardless of experiences, anyone with even a modest amount of intelligence and integrity can look at things objectively. It's rather unfortunate that many on here, including yourself, lack this ability.