Zilla mat?

found this stuff on ebay... it has pretty good reviews.... any ever tried it? 25 square feet for 50 bucks is pretty good....im not looking to deaden my whole cab.... i just want something to put behid my sub on the back wall to stop the god awful rattle i have when my sub hits hard..... will this work for what i want to use it for? thanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ZILL...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

That's a decent price but it's not an ultra good deal to the point that I'd buy something I wasn't sure had been proven. The stuff that Don sells on his website is top notch. www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
If you're going to only be doing a small portion and don't need a lot why are you planning on getting 50sqft?

As another word of advice, CCF (closed cell foam) is better for stopping things from rattling against eachother.

 

that was only 25 sq feet... i figure it should take about 15 square feet to do the back wall right? then i would have enough left over to do the floor behind the back seats.. thats prolly 5 sq feet..... so i wouldnt have alot left over....

i dont know if a close celled foam will work as good... i dont think its from the box vibrating against the back as much as it is that the back is just a single unsupported piece of sheet metal.... im thinking if i can dampen that piece of sheetmetel it iwll do the trick?>

maybe im wrong.... i guess the test wil be for me to remove the back seat... slide the sub box out an inch or so so i know its not physically touching the back wall... and see if it still vibrates that bad on those certian notes.

 

dunno about that stuff...but the best bang for your buck out there is RAMMat. If you are going to go to the trouble of doing the back wall, you might as well do the whole cab. The ensolite makes a huge difference as well.

Give Rick a call and order up a roll of matt and get some Ensolite as well.

 

I was also looking at the Zilla Mat. Did you end up going with this stuff? How happy are you with it?

 

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I just finished my stereo project and my cab is pin-drop quiet with BXTII and ensolite on the back wall, doors and floor. You don't need to cover the entire car in matting. Total cost including shipping was around $230. Even the guy at our shop that's been open for 35 years was incredibly impressed with the Raamat...and they sell Dynamat.

You can't find a better deal...and Rick is nothing short of amazing when it comes to questions and customer service.

I'll buy from him again because of that alone.

 

All I have heard about Rick has lead me to believe the same. I will be purchasing 3 Rolls of BXT, 12 yards of ensolite, and a couple cans of adhesive next month for a friends truck, and my own. I'm not too worried about the quality given the reviews I have heard from others. Not to mention you could never beat the price.

 

buy the bxtII...it comes in sheets and has to be easier to work with. Not to mention it's double the thickness.

 

I was looking at the bxtII but the cost is what really deterred me. The bxt seems like much more of a bang for its buck. I guess I should look into the bxtII some more.

What are the real advantages of the bxtII over the bxt? I'm a noob when it comes to sound proofing/deadening.

 

I'm a noob too except that I spent over an hour talking to Rick, the owner of Raamat and he assured me the extra expense of the BXT II is well worth it.

From my personal experience, there appeared to be no difference between a fully lined door and a partially lined door/floor. But, I did notice a significant difference when a portion of the door beam (you'll find it inside each door) is covered in matting. For some reason, just doing the outside skin doesn't keep that from resonating...i highly recommend doing that.

I really think you can do more with less of the II than with the original BXT...now, i haven't used the original so I might be talking out of my behind...but I can vouch for the II and I didn't completely cover ANYTHING. I can hear someone whisper from the backseat now.

 

Interesting. I can see how covering everything would not necessarily be beneficial due to how metal resonates. As for the Ensolite goes, did you cover pretty much everything in Ensolite? If not, what all did you cover? Thanks again for all the information. I'm going to give Rick a call too and see what all he has to say.

 

I did cover everything in ensolite...what i didn't do was compare the cab before the ensolite to after...so I can't really say definitively how much of a difference it makes.

Oddly enough I started this project during a week when it rained a lot and found it semi disturbing that there was so much water INSIDE my door panels when I put my hands inside. So, after I had ripped off the plastic moisture barrier on the doors, I was sure I was going to put the ensolite on...at least the doors.

I did cover the back wall, the floor and the doors with ensolite. I didn't take out the center console (because i couldn't get it off quickly and was losing my patience) but rather pulled the carpet back as far as I could both towards the firewall and the center and put ensolite down there on top of the mat. I didn't put anything behind the speakers as suggested by Rick...mainly because I put 5.25" speakers in there and didn't want to further subdue their mid response. Had they been 6.5", I may have done that...not sure if that's sound thinking on my part or not but it sounds smart in my mind.

I think the key for the ensolite is making sure things don't rattle. I'm not convinced it is a great "Sound barrier" but rather a good compliment to the BXTII. If i were doing it again, I'd definitely do it the same.

let me know if you have other questions

 

@Gossamer

Did you take any pics of your install? I have been talking to Rick and getting ready to order some BXTII and the ensolite, the new peal and stick he makes and going to add the mass loaded vinyl to the floors. So you just put the ensolite on the inner skin of the doors or just outer?