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BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO2

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Discount Tire, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. Apr 16, 2015 at 9:47 AM
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    Maybe I'll try them at 35 then.
     
  2. Apr 16, 2015 at 9:54 AM
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    Taco me elmo Here, Eat some paint. Drink some Bleach.

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    The dealer and any tire shop will always put your tires at the door PSI regardless of them asking you.

    You have to tell them upfront that you are ok with them putting it at an "Unsafe" PSI amount as they claim its illegal.. LOL I laughed in the oil change techs face at the dealer last weekend.

    My truck came in with 35 and was leaving with 29.. I made them put the tires back at 35, I noticed on my receipt they messed with it and noted a bunch of dumb stuff that needed replacing, Timing belt, Water pump, Battery, Leaking valve covers, broken windshield washer container neck..

    I run a yellow top Optima 2 years old, timing belt was done 60k ago, windshield washer neck had duct tape on it, valve cover gaskets were done 10k ago and needed tightened.

    Also fun fact, most places have 1-2 guys that can drive a stick.. Hilarious.
     
  3. Apr 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM
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    Well the tire shop I went to had them way over inflated.
     
  4. Apr 16, 2015 at 12:16 PM
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    Taco me elmo

    Taco me elmo Here, Eat some paint. Drink some Bleach.

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    rookies.
     
  5. Apr 16, 2015 at 1:01 PM
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    Got mine a month ago. Very happy with the handling and look. There was a noticable difference in throttle response going from the stock tires to these. More torque to get heavier wheels turnin. Lost a mile or 2 per gallon. I dont regret it though!
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  6. Apr 16, 2015 at 1:18 PM
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    Yes sir
    Pfft who cares about gas mileage anyways :D
     
  7. Apr 17, 2015 at 5:14 PM
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    I got a set of SCS SR8 Wheels that should be on my doorstep Monday. And I called and got a quote on some of these locally and they are getting me a set in size 265/75 R16. Question is I shouldn't need any spacers or anything as I have a 07 Double Cab offroad. Trying to max out my tire size until I can talk my wife into a lift and from research this is my max. I'm just making sure I couldn't see any other issues going with the new wheels at the same time.
     
  8. Apr 17, 2015 at 5:23 PM
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    when I went to 265/75/16 on my oem wheels with all stock suspension on my 15 4x4 double cab, i rubbed pretty bad on the mudflaps. I didnt trim though as I added spacers and billstein 5100's/OME 885's (2" lift in front and 1" in the rear) and that solved my rubbing issues
     
  9. Apr 17, 2015 at 7:59 PM
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    Yes sir
    Just tell your wife that you're actually saving them money by investing in a lift now and getting the tires in the size you want with your lift rather than investing in tires, eventually getting a lift, and then realizing you wanted a bigger size tire and you now have to convince her to let you get another set of tires :D
     
  10. Apr 17, 2015 at 8:13 PM
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    Just finished a tank of gas with the new tires 265/75/16, tonneau cover, spacers, 5100's, ome springs, 1" block in the rear. When the car was all stock I got 300 miles before the low gas light just came on, now with all the mods it came on at 280 miles. Quite surprised I only lost roughly 1 mpg with these heavy tires and spacers. Still loving these tires!
     
  11. Apr 17, 2015 at 9:21 PM
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  12. Apr 18, 2015 at 6:57 AM
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    Been in Hungry Valley cali.ohv park And so for so good. More skinny pedal for hill stuff but with no loss of traction.
     
  13. Apr 18, 2015 at 11:36 AM
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    Your odometer is turning slower with the 1" taller tires... so don't put all the blame on the tire, as you drove more miles than the odometer is telling you.

    With 265/75-16 on instead of the stock 265/70-16, my speedometer (which read fast with stock tires) is now accurate, but my odometer is 10 miles slow for every 400 miles driven (2.5%).
     
  14. Apr 22, 2015 at 8:04 PM
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    I emailed BFG 3 days ago asking them if they will release a KO2 LT265/70r/16 in load range D and they said that size will only be manufactured in load range E. I keep them inflated to 42psi. I currently have KO 265/70r/16 load range D for several years and have lost 2 to 3 mpg combined city/highway compared to the rugged trails. Highway mileage @65mph is 19 to 20 mpg. Highway mileage @75mph it drops to 17 to 18mpg. My KO's load range D weigh 49 lbs and KO2 load range E weigh 50 lbs. How much more mpg will I loose with higher rolling resistance load range E tires? One way to find out. I can't imagine loosing even more mileage with an LT 265/75r/16.
     
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  15. Apr 23, 2015 at 6:14 AM
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    Why would you assume a E has higher rolling resistance than a D if they are the same weight and size? I can't find any information anywhere the correlates load rating with rolling resistance. Certainly in general higher load rated tires may weigh more and that would increase rolling resistance - but in this case the weights are nearly identical.

    According to an article on Tire Rack:

    I'm guessing the KO D vs. the KO2 E are if not identical in rolling resistance they certainly are within 10% meaning the impact to fuel economy is essentially impossible to measure.

    When you went from Rugged Fails to the KO you went from a 38 lb P rated tire with a 10/32 tread depth to a 49 lb LT tire with a 15/32 tread depth. That's a huge change in weight and a big change in tread depth too (more tread depth means higher rolling resistance). BFG rates those tire as having significantly different efficiency as well.

    In comparison the difference between the KO in D and the KO2 in E are negligible. At most 1 lb difference and essentially identical tread.

    You shouldn't notice any difference going between the two. Or more accurately, any difference you see is going to be the difference between an older worn tire and a new tire with full tread depth.
     
  16. Apr 23, 2015 at 7:21 AM
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    The thing most of us who aren't keen on going with a Load-range E are worried about is the weight difference. There's very few tires that are offered in both so I'm going to use the Goodyear Duratrac for comparison. The difference in load-range C vs E at the same size (265/75/16) is 6 pounds. 6 pounds per tire has a significant impact because of the inertial mass that you have to both spin up on acceleration and spin down while braking. Sure in gross vehicle weight it's the same as only 3 gallons of water in your back seat, but it affects fuel economy a lot more than just 3 gallons of water.
     
  17. Apr 23, 2015 at 12:01 PM
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    Hmmm...good stuff here
     
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    Does anyone have any snow or ice experience yet?
     
  19. Apr 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM
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    Yup, drove on mine all winter long through some pretty deep snow cover since they don't plow my road at all. They worked great and never had an issue even when I was crawling through 10+ inches of the white stuff.

    Ice, well with ice you're going to have a hard time with most tires but I wouldn't say they were bad. Just easy on the throttle and let the TCS do it's thing to get grip.
     
  20. Apr 23, 2015 at 3:10 PM
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    Thanks. I'm on the West Coast of Canada where we have rain but now snow. Just 100 miles East though, we get snow from October until March. I need a real all-season tire.
     

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