OK, the 3.5 should be a good engine

They do say ignorance is bliss...

 

If I had to drive a medium truck or heavy truck like dumptruck or mixer etc I would preffer an automatic too! A modern one.

I have driven very heavy vehicles with modern automatic and big diesels. They do really good and make it safer by letting you focus more on blind spots etc than a similar manual.

I haven't driven hardly anything older with an automatic in a large truck minus army five ton trucks vintage of 91 and those automatic sucked compared to the manual.

The truck I drove in Iraq was 56k, and in real harsh conditions I towed more than 73k in said truck without issue. That truck is an international with an Allison and a big 9.2 or 9.3 liter. The heavier truck that was 73k I towed another truck in emergency recovery that weighed 73k. Also without issue, although that truck had a 7.3 or 7.2 cat and an Allison auto.

I put over 13k very very harsh miles on that international without a single hickup from the drivtrain. In fact of the 8 vehicles with modern Allison automatic transmission in my squad not one single vehicle ever had a problem. Compared to the hmmwv which grenaded an engine or transmission like clockwork. .

 

My scan gauge says the same bs the borrowed ultragauge says.

Those gauges have absolutely no means to be very accurate. It doesn't matter what plug in gauge you buy they are all wrong.

Its a good estimate for certain things like economy or shits and giggles but its not a dyno.

and if it was a dyno, it would still be different from day to day, dyno to dyno and truck to truck.

 

Yup. Dyno's are usually calibrated to sea level pressure and temperature, but due to small variations they are only accurate to about 5% at my altitude.

 

I mean I had many dyno runs on a built 22re, one day It would run say 180 hp at the wheels and another it would run 10 ponies more or less without any changes.

I bet she dynos higher than my 4.0 v6. But then it better, trucks got nearly as much in it as a new tacoma costs! It will spank the shit out of my tacoma, very similar power numbers but the truck is 1500 lbs lighter than the tacoma easily.

I am building a new toy slowly but I am trying to figure out what drivetrain im going with. I would like a 4.0, but I am thinking of building a 2tr or 3rz turbo. Who knows I havr plenty of time to figure that out while I build the truck.

 

LOL, I'm pretty sure that's a Major Lazer song....

 

#1 Oh boy... No automatic transmission will allow you to directly select gear unless you are in maintenance mode...
Here is the entry from FSM for our Tacomas

#2. Your company tells their employees what Personal Vehicle to buy ?
That is crazy, can we find out who is your company than ?

 

Companies that have specific usage reimbursement or outright vehicle purchase clauses are permitted to do so. To be fair, it's technically which personal vehicle they will reimburse you for purchasing. He can buy a manual Tacoma if he wants - they just won't pay him back and can take personnel action against him for using it on the job because it violates a specific employment clause.

Lawyers drive automatics, y'all.

 

He wrote select not hold. Yes when you put on 2nd it will hold on second but thats not the same, Thats why I quoted FSM which tells exactly how to shift to each gear directly. (aka maintenance mode)

 

My mom has a brand new avalon that has the 3.5 in it the car and is fast as shit and smooth take off. Is mindblowing and the power is seemless perfect motor for a tacoma depending on the tune

 

An automatic in a heavy truck is NOTHING like the automatics in a Tacoma lol. We were talking about heavy trucks:

http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/Products...d/fuller-advantage-automated/index.htm#tabs-1

Yes, you can select the gear the truck is in with the Eatons and it will stay there as long as you aren't about to stall the engine.

I have no idea where you got that from .

If you are talking about our heavy trucks than we buy all International. The reason being that International is our only local dealer and has provided us with excellent service for over a decade. If you complain about our Internationals and want a Mac or something then you should find somewhere else to drive truck. I've never had a driver refuse to drive on of our heavy or medium duty trucks because they were automatic. In fact, most of them really enjoy our automatics because of some of the features they have.

If you are talking about the vehicles we provide our Salaried employees for servicing our customers than yes those COMPANY vehicles come from a selection list. Right now there are no options on that list from Toyota because the operating and financial cost of owning running a Tundra is much higher than any other truck on the market. Basically anything American can be ordered in the XLT (Ford)/SLT (Dodge) /SLE (GM) packages though depending on what deal our leasing arm is getting sometimes you get better options from one company or another. In general GM trucks show up with almost no options because there pricing sucks. All trucks must be ordered in automatic, with backup sensors, bluetooth, the largest engine, and the trailing equipment package for insurance, safety, and expected duty reasons.

Our salary employees do get limited personal use of the trucks but because we don't want the complications of full personal use they are not allowed to just get whatever model they want. The company only charges them $25 a month for the truck, plus government taxes, which is pretty awesome for a 3/4 ton in your driveway to do with as you please with free gas.

 

Unless company buys you a vehicle they can not tell you which one to buy? personal Vehicle is personal. They may not reimburse you if they feel its breaking a law but they are limited. Proven in court when some auto makers were trying to "punish" employees for driving Japanese cars to work.
Saying flat out you can not buy personal vehicle because we may need somebody else to drive it is flat out wrong and easiest way to get your company sued for millions.

Even if you put that in employment contract this will get quickly overturn in court.

 

We were discussing heavy trucks at that moment lol, so shove the FSM for a Tacoma.

 

Shitty

 

Dude, I was talking about company leased vehicles that our salaried employees get personal use on. Why do you have to be so intentionally dense . Basically you get to choose the badge on the front and 4x4 or not. Everything else is ordered the same across the line for a multitude of reasons. Safety, cost, etc.

If someone is going to bitch about paying $25 bucks a month for a truck with nearly unlimited free gas they need there head examined.

 

I got that from your post

To me thats Employee buying a vehicle not an employer .
And again Select and Hold are two different things.
If you put on 4th while parked does your truck starts on 4th ?
Put on 4th in manual transmission and there is no way to take off from stand still.

 

Also, when I use my Tacoma for work, it's because my Dodge 2500 is either in the shop or not able to get where I need to go because the terrain isn't 3/4 ton friendly. At that point I get paid to use my personal truck BUT my truck must still conform to the same basic safety rules as we set out for the rest of the fleet. That means the truck must be automatic IF I WANT TO USE IT FOR WORK. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

 

So for clarification, our company will not allow you to order a lease truck with a manual or use your personal truck that you buy on site if it's a manual because it's against our safety regulations.

Same with a backup sensor or camera system, bluetooth, ABS, VSC, airbags, etc. If you were to get hurt in your truck while you are on the clock and it didn't match up with the company policy the insurance would get messy I'm sure, especially if the safety officer in corporate deems that the missing feature contributed to an injury or death.

 

Your explanations are getting more convoluted
Ok so lets make this simple... Who purchases a vehicle and its registered and insured owner of the non-commercial vehicle ?
If its Employee, than you have no right to specify what vehicle employee can buy or drive. Simple. That has been already argued.
You actually legally can not allow anybody to drive somebody's else personal vehicle. Its actually illegal unless you have written consent (like what you sign when you leave the car in dealership for repair). So saying that somebody needs to buy automatic because company may ask other employee to drive your personal vehicle is so wrong on so many levels that its not even funny. If this is really how you describe I suggest checking with your company legal team. My suspicion is its not what you saying... No company would be that stupid, but than again like they say "never underestimate predictability of stupidity".

We all get paid when we use personal vehicle for company business, its a law...
If your truck is registered and passes inspection and has valid insurance than by law its allowed on public roads.
and ... Transmission is not basic safety device, you telling me in Canada is ? (you are in Canada right?)

 

The vehicle supplied to our salaried employees are purchased by a third party leasing firm. That firm is owned by our parent company. Once the 3 year lease is up we buy the vehicles from the third party company. The vehicle can then be bought by the employee for a below KBB depreciated cost, it can be kept by our location as a truck for non salary employees, or it can be sold at near KBB for a slight profit.

The insurance and registration is done by the company as a fleet vehicle under Alberta law.

HOWEVER,

The vehicle is available for personal use of the employee. This means the employee name is registered to that vehicle with the insurance and the employee is able to use the vehicle however they choose for a nominal fee. The employee is also able to select the vehicle of there choice from a list corporate gives us. The current list has about 30 different cab, drive train, and model configurations on it.

On that note if you bring a personal vehicle to work because your manager deems that your location can occasionally benefit then yes another employee can use it as far as I know. It is to messy legally but with proper commercial insurance on the vehicle and liability insurance from the our company itself it is legal. We don't actually allow that to happen with our trucks to be honest because it is a PITA if something did happen and we wouldn't want to be involved but people share personal quads all the time that the company is paying for with personal registration, corporate insurance, and additional liability coverage as a common example. Also, in order for that vehicle to be deemed "safe" by our health and safety team it must meet the same requirements as a company lease vehicle. That means it must be automatic. Make sense? No automatic = no workie for light duty trucks that are working for us. It is still okay according to company policy for medium and heavy duty trucks to be manual, but all new models acquired are supposed to be automatic.

To be honest if you want the entire reason why this is all legal I would have to consult with our legal team. I'd rather not do that because doing so often brings up totally new issues we don't need to worry about.

BTW it's totally legal to require anything of a personal vehicle that is used for business. The parent company can require it to be yellow if they want and it's not illegal. If you are getting paid to drive that vehicle they can choose to set a standard of safety for that vehicle. They don't have to prove why they want that requirement legally. That's why personal vehicles that are used on the oil batteries here have those annoying back up beepers and ugly reflective safety tape on the bumpers. It's a safety requirement of the company required before that personal vehicle is allowed on the job site for work purposes.

Of course your personal vehicle is allowed on the road. However the company can say you brought unsafe, according to THEM, equipment to work on the job site with and send you home. That means no workie. Lots of companies have company policies mandating vehicular safety equipment. Just like a company can require you to wear a certain steel toe boot even though OSHA doesn't they can tell you you must drive an automatic when working for and being paid by the company for their own corporate safety reasons.