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OK, the 3.5 should be a good engine

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by shr133, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. May 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM
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    holy thread derail!
     
  2. May 6, 2015 at 12:48 PM
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    It really isn't a derail. This is TW, so almost by design everything goes like this:

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    Of course it doesn't help that usually BlueT is standing inside that building in the middle of the picture throwing random levers every few posts.
     
  3. May 6, 2015 at 12:53 PM
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    #1 That is not a personal vehicle... that is still a company vehicle.

    #2 Than you don't know. Its illegal to drive any vehicle with out owners consent. It can be verbal or written but consent has to be there.
    So if you say somebody else can drive your personal vehicle your consent has to be given to that person. The only people that can get away with verbal consent are legal spouse and next-of-kin. Others better have written consent because depending on the State Troopers attitude, they may end up either with the warning or with the ride on the back of the cruiser.

    #3 You may not allow employee to use their personal vehicle for business purpose If Vehicle does not adhere to safety standards, but you can not tell employee what he can or can not buy for personal use and for sure no court will agree with you that transmission is a safety device.
    Extra lights, yes, reverse beep yes. Transmission No.
     
  4. May 6, 2015 at 12:56 PM
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    Ya welcome :cheers:

    Stop....We all knows those trains can not haul more than their weight and all are gasoline powered because Diesel is not efficient.
    /sarcasm
     
  5. May 6, 2015 at 1:56 PM
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    #1 Yes it is a company vehicle. I used the word sold incorrectly and I should of said lease. Since the employee gets to pick there truck I consider it a buy/sell arrangement personally, especially since most of us buy the truck off the company after the lease period and sell it for profit.

    #2 Dude the owner knows when something is borrowed. I NEVER EVER said something personal was just taken by the business and used. You keep taking things way out of proportion. I guess that is your MO.

    For example, if my quad is sitting outside and someone wants to use it THEY ASK FIRST. Pretty simple to understand lol. Plus you have to sign a bunch of paperwork for the liability insurance that goes over what it means when you use a personal vehicle on the company time.

    #3 LOL. Seriously. Boy Blue we don't tell people what to buy. If you want to get paid to drive your personal truck into tight spots then that's YOUR OWN CHOICE. That being said YOU MUST FOLLOW THE COMPANY RULES. Again, you are taking my words out of context. If the company says an automatic transmission falls under it's requirements for a safe vehicle that's something no court is going to over rule. A company has free choice, just like the employee has free choice to use the vehicle provided to them by our company or their own personal vehicle. If they choose to use their own vehicle some days then the vehicle must conform to those rules. Otherwise they must use a company lease truck or get shit canned.

    BTW who says what is safe? There aren't OSHA or other standards on oil field vehicles. It's up to the company to determine their own safety protocol, and the only way it would end up in court is if they weren't safe enough. Extra regulations would never be reviewed by the court.
     
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  6. May 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM
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    Yeah, I'm not sure why BlueT can't just PM me lol.
     
  7. May 6, 2015 at 2:08 PM
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    Tune in tomorrow folks to continue this saga
     
  8. May 6, 2015 at 2:19 PM
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    Sterdog, you a "northern North American?" I don't think BlueT can fathom the concept that laws elsewhere may be different than those in his imaginary kingdom.

    Oh, and those company car rules apply here too. Company can make the rules when it's paying the bills.
     
  9. May 6, 2015 at 2:22 PM
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    It was obvious that Sterdog did not say your company dictated what vehicle you can drive on your own time. Only what they will and will not compensate you for or let you bring on site.
     
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    Yup. I see that ALL the time with the roughnecks rolling around down here in Chevy 2500s and F250s and broken Dodges.
     
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    Please send me my new truck, will be sending you $25 today for my first installment. :)

    that is awesome, wish my place did that.
     
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    Sigh...
    If you wrote that your company does not purchase vehicles with manual transmission for its employees, I would have not even bothered commenting on it.
    But you wrote your company does not let their employees to buy manual transmission vehicles. And than you insisted that indeed you are not allowed to purchase personal vehicle with manual transmission.
    Do you get a difference between two?
    :facepalm:
    All you should have wrote was "Company does not buy"... or correct in second post.
    But you are full of statements like that. Aren't ya.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    I have no interest in continuing on a conversation over a simple miswording. I corrected it and you felt the need to belittle and attack it for how many posts? Everyone else understood what I was trying to say. Personal manual transmission vehicles are a no no for our company if you want to get paid for using them. For some reason you didn't, you might want to look into that.

    As for your last comment, I seem to remember having far more winning little disagreements with you than losing manual diesel super mini truck man. Go do your BT4 swap into a 1st gen and get it over with :D. Or buy your Nissan XD. Either way you'll still find a way to complain about things that make sense to 99% of other people.

    My company supplies a work truck with a personal twist. I'm one of two guys at work that bothers with owning a personal vehicle and I do it for tax purposes. Most people just use the company rig as there personal rig. Turn it how you will. I'm not insulted.

    Let's get back to 3.5 L engine related discussions :thumbsup:.
     
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  14. May 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM
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    3.5 L would be fine with some small turbos on it :D
     
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    An engine without turbos at all is infinite lag. I'd take the 3.5 with turbos. In fact, I'd take an even smaller 3.0 with turbos as long as it made healthy torque and got decent mileage. There's always room for improvement when you're sporting forced induction. That's probably my #1 complaint with the 4.0; there was simply no way to yield more power without a full overhaul.
     
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    Sequential turbos! :thumbsup:
     
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    TRD Supercharger?

    More power but I agree it doesn't make the truck fast. With a trailer or climbing hills I notice a large increase in power.
     
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    They will never put a larger displacement engine in the Tacoma under the current and upcoming CAFE regulations.

    I hope they come out with a TRD S/C for the 3.5 L . It'll be a sad day if there isn't a Toyota supported boost option for the Tacoma.

    The truth is boost and several other technologies will be used in the future to make power from less displacement.
     
  19. May 7, 2015 at 11:24 AM
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    It's not the "same", its even better in some cases. There is a replacement for displacement, and it's called technology. I own a 94 Supra turbo 6-speed. A friend has a 2008 M3 V8 6-speed. We are talking about one of the most advanced and powerful small V8s in recent history. It makes 295 torque at 3900 rpm at the engine.

    My Supra when STOCK.... dynoed at nearly 300 (forget exact #) at the WHEELS! Underrated HP and torque #s from factory for sure.

    Both cars drive good but my Supra pulled harder stock at higher gears (5th,6th,4th). It wasn't as fast all out stock but a few mods took care of that.

    Dinosaur technology I-6 turbo from 23 years ago out muscles a modern 4.0L V8. And the mpg. wow. We road tripped and I get near 25 mpg and M3 is at around 20. BOOM. Give me boost please!
     
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    Compare a Hemi 6.2 L to a Ford 3.5 L Ecoboost. They both have similar numbers below 4000 RPM. Yet the Ecoboost absolutely stomps a 6.2 L in fuel economy. Plus the Ecoboost has even more torque under 3000 RPM than the fake 6.2 Hemi. There's an apples to apples comparison.

    Plus Ford has a 3.5 L Ecoboost with over 450 HP and 500 ft*lbs of torque just waiting in the wings...
     

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