1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

I was going to wait for the 2016 Tacoma...

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by JKC808, May 13, 2015.

  1. May 15, 2015 at 3:47 AM
    #61
    Rich807

    Rich807 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2015
    Member:
    #146434
    Messages:
    84
    Gender:
    Male
    Desert SW
    Vehicle:
    '14 Corolla Commuter - Future '16 Tacoma
    I can sympathize w/you, but never say never. I had some nagging issues w/my '94 compact to include 1 that left me stranded beside the road while truck was still under Toyota warranty. Two dealerships, Toyota Western region, & Toyota itself were horrible, just horrible during the entire ordeals.

    So I gave Toyota the middle finger for the better part of 20yrs because of the above & they lost a lot of business from me during that time. Yet, here I am currently driving a leased '14 Corolla for a DD & it's so nice for a 1st year vehicle its caused me to seriously look at getting back into a Toyota truck when the '16 comes out.

    Back to OP's topic though, congrats again on the new ride, hopefully you'll love it for years to come.
     
  2. May 15, 2015 at 6:49 AM
    #62
    Jayhawk815

    Jayhawk815 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Member:
    #25727
    Messages:
    122
    Gender:
    Male
  3. May 15, 2015 at 6:53 AM
    #63
    babelt

    babelt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2013
    Member:
    #109982
    Messages:
    129
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    TN
    5100's all around. Front's set at 1.75" 265/75/16 Duratracs.
    I think they look like something old men would drive....which is exactly the type of people that I have seen in them where I'm from.
     
  4. May 15, 2015 at 7:04 AM
    #64
    taco206

    taco206 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Member:
    #48237
    Messages:
    1,001
    Gender:
    Male
    Mill Creek, WA
    Vehicle:
    14 DCSB SR5 PreRunner 2.7L

    You expect someone in their 20's who's fresh out of college with a useless degree, mounds of student loans, working at subway, and living with their parent's to be in a position to get one? Most of the people I see driving new higher grade 2015 Tacomas are older guys.
     
    TacoRan likes this.
  5. May 15, 2015 at 7:05 AM
    #65
    Sterdog

    Sterdog Offline

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Member:
    #113290
    Messages:
    18,435
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    I am Groot
    People's Democratic Republic of Canuckistan
    Vehicle:
    15 FoST
    Both articles do reference that the retained value is an "expectation." Though good on you, I didn't honestly think the Silverado held it's value like that and it does make sense that the Colorado will hold value in a similar fashion. We sell the GM trucks off of lease from my company for peanuts compared to a Ford.
     
  6. May 15, 2015 at 7:07 AM
    #66
    Sterdog

    Sterdog Offline

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Member:
    #113290
    Messages:
    18,435
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    I am Groot
    People's Democratic Republic of Canuckistan
    Vehicle:
    15 FoST
    That's who Chevrolet is advertising there truck to. Young guys who want to get out of a Corolla.

    I'm 28, I bought my Tacoma at 25. Then again I'm using my "useless" degree to earn my bank :D.
     
  7. May 15, 2015 at 7:55 AM
    #67
    SwollenGoat

    SwollenGoat Onwards and Upwards!

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2014
    Member:
    #144225
    Messages:
    8,234
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 ACLB, ‘99 XCLB, ‘92 RC, ‘85 4R
    $40K for a mid-size truck is ridiculous, even for us old dudes that can pay cash for 'em. I dunno, the older I get the cheaper I become. Vehicles are such a horrible investment.
     
    Rich807 likes this.
  8. May 15, 2015 at 7:59 AM
    #68
    Jayhawk815

    Jayhawk815 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Member:
    #25727
    Messages:
    122
    Gender:
    Male
    Agreed, but so is $60k for a half-ton full-size. They continue to offer more and more options and luxuries on trucks, and of course charge accordingly. You can still get a basic truck for a decent price.
     
  9. May 15, 2015 at 8:13 AM
    #69
    Sterdog

    Sterdog Offline

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Member:
    #113290
    Messages:
    18,435
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    I am Groot
    People's Democratic Republic of Canuckistan
    Vehicle:
    15 FoST
    I don't know where you get 60K for a half ton from lol. My wife just bought a 2015 F150 XLT XTR 4x4 Pkg 302A for just over $41K CAD (Canadian Dollars) OTD. GM wanted the same amount for a base model Z71 Colorado.

    Hell, the sticker on my Ram 2500 isn't even $60K CAD lol. For $60K you are paying for a ton of luxury options that 99% of people my age don't give two craps about. You'd also have to pay sticker, and who pays sticker on a GM or Ford half ton! We like a good looking truck with some technological knobs to play with and a solid set of mechanical features. You don't need to go much over $40K OTD price to find that in a half ton.

    I paid $37K CAD for my Tacoma in 2013, which would be considered a steal of a deal on a TRD Sport around here. I could of had an F150 XTR back then for the same price with similar options. The price of mid sizes has been high for a long time. I don't consider 40K into a vehicle a rediculous invest when we have a trailer and a newborn daughter. Everything around here is oil field and Ag. Every 2nd vehicle on the road is a full sized truck. I wanted my wife in something that was in that weight class, which is much safer in a collision than her old Sonata, and that could tow our trailer with ease. I didn't want to waste my time with a used truck for 20K that could have issues and little to no warranty. I wanted something we could guarantee would be running in 5 years. A new truck was the best option.
     
  10. May 15, 2015 at 9:16 AM
    #70
    Jayhawk815

    Jayhawk815 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Member:
    #25727
    Messages:
    122
    Gender:
    Male
    Umm, I just built an F-150 Platinum $60,710 without any accessories.

    If this works:
    http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-F-150?branding=1&lang=en&gnav=header-trucks#/MakeItYours/Config[|Ford|F-150|2015|1|1.|701A.W1E..UG...SS5.55A.53C.CCAB.RETAIL.99G.AWD.446.PLA.66A.]

    You can build a GMC Sierra 1500 Denali for over $62k
     
  11. May 15, 2015 at 9:21 AM
    #71
    Sterdog

    Sterdog Offline

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Member:
    #113290
    Messages:
    18,435
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    I am Groot
    People's Democratic Republic of Canuckistan
    Vehicle:
    15 FoST
    Got to go apples to apples. A loaded GM Canyon is roughly equivalent to a Lariat F150, not a platinum. Platinum and King Ranch trucks are basically luxury vehicles. There is apparently a Denali Canyon in the works so try pricing out one of those. Trust me, I've actually looked at, priced out, and ended up buying an F150 because of the super low price difference versus the capability of a bigger truck.

    Plus you won't pay $60K for that platinum unless you're totally inept at wheeling and dealing. I walked away with about $9.5K off the sticker on my F150. You won't get that sort of rebate off a Canyon/Colorado.

    Trust me, there isn't $20K OTD difference between a full sized and a mid sized. Even people who are getting just the base rebates on half tons (about $5K) are only paying maybe $3K more to get into a full size over a similar mid sized truck.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2015
    Jayhawk815[QUOTED] and ZachMX like this.
  12. May 15, 2015 at 9:40 AM
    #72
    Jayhawk815

    Jayhawk815 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Member:
    #25727
    Messages:
    122
    Gender:
    Male
    I agree, but we were discussing MSRP, not OTD prices.
    I wasn't arguing about what deals, rebates, discounts are available, merely commenting how expensive trucks have become and can be optioned to. Just a few years ago, $45k was the retail for a fully loaded half-ton. Now, they can be optioned to over $60k. Of course no one in the right mind would pay full retail price for one, I wasn't suggesting that.
     
    Rich807 likes this.
  13. May 15, 2015 at 9:43 AM
    #73
    SwollenGoat

    SwollenGoat Onwards and Upwards!

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2014
    Member:
    #144225
    Messages:
    8,234
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 ACLB, ‘99 XCLB, ‘92 RC, ‘85 4R

    Too much fluff in pickup...I don't get it. Yeah, you can get a basic contractor truck closer to $30K. I am finding brand new 4 banger 4 Cyl 4WD Tacos in the low 20's (even better!)

    I just can't imagine paying $60K for something I am going to beat on...I am self employed...the way I figure it...the less I spend, the less I have to work. That work thing is waaay over-rated. ;)
     
    wsurunner and Jayhawk815[QUOTED] like this.
  14. May 15, 2015 at 9:45 AM
    #74
    jrg24

    jrg24 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2015
    Member:
    #151944
    Messages:
    219
    Gender:
    Male
    True. the full size is probably a better buy at the various trim levels, but for me the size is a complete turnoff. I want a truck to do some Home Depot runs, camping and some light wheeling along with basic daily driving. I'm not gonna tow all that much. I would much rather habe ease of parking and the ability to actually fit two cars in my garage.

    I did test drive a ram 1500 Laramie and it was nice. It took a 5 point turn to get it out if it's parking spot, but it was nice (small parking lot). This alone aside from other reliability concerns made me not want to go the full size route. Living in a big city it just doesnt make sense. I also looked into the Canyon but IMO, to me it did not seem to live up to the price for an SLT fully loaded. This was before the 2016 tacoma was announced. the 2015 didn't compare to the others as far as options go so I waited. It looks like the 2016 limited may be the compromise between size, reliability, and luxury that I have been waiting for.
     
    Rich807 and Jayhawk815 like this.
  15. May 15, 2015 at 9:50 AM
    #75
    SwollenGoat

    SwollenGoat Onwards and Upwards!

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2014
    Member:
    #144225
    Messages:
    8,234
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 ACLB, ‘99 XCLB, ‘92 RC, ‘85 4R
    The mid-sizes are so close to price and fuel economy of the 1/2 tons...I dunno, doesn't make much sense finically to go with a mid-size. I miss the true mini-trucks...oh well...people like me are in the minority.
     
  16. May 15, 2015 at 9:52 AM
    #76
    TacoJonn

    TacoJonn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2013
    Member:
    #118681
    Messages:
    3,896
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jon
    Laramie, Wyoming
    Vehicle:
    '13 DCLB Sport 4x4, '78 FJ40
    I got a 3500 lb Casita trailer to pull. The Tacoma can pull that easily. A full-size pickup just feel ridiculous when I drive one.
     
  17. May 15, 2015 at 9:53 AM
    #77
    jrg24

    jrg24 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2015
    Member:
    #151944
    Messages:
    219
    Gender:
    Male
    If a mini truck was available I'd take it in a heartbeat.
     
  18. May 15, 2015 at 9:56 AM
    #78
    SwollenGoat

    SwollenGoat Onwards and Upwards!

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2014
    Member:
    #144225
    Messages:
    8,234
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 ACLB, ‘99 XCLB, ‘92 RC, ‘85 4R
    An extra cab 1/2 ton compared to a AC Taco does feel all that bigger to me, though I used to drive Tri-Axle Macks for a living...fullsize trucks feel small to me. Jumping out of the Mack into my old F250...the Ford felt like a go-cart.
     
  19. May 15, 2015 at 10:42 AM
    #79
    Sterdog

    Sterdog Offline

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Member:
    #113290
    Messages:
    18,435
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    I am Groot
    People's Democratic Republic of Canuckistan
    Vehicle:
    15 FoST
    :thumbsup:

    At the end of the day size does matter. Sometimes it's better to have something that'll fit in some smaller spaces. Remember, I own a Tacoma, and not an F150 for myself, for a similar reason. For my wife there was nothing holding her back from a 1/2 ton other than her own fear of it. One of the things that swayed her was the driving style of the newest Fords. When they got rid of that extra 800 lbs of weight the trucks drive a lot nicer on that wide wheel base than I expected. She's having no problems parking it.
     
  20. May 15, 2015 at 1:04 PM
    #80
    D50boy

    D50boy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2015
    Member:
    #155317
    Messages:
    59
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kenneth
    Texas
    Those look pretty darn nice. I may have to look into their specs.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top