When are we going to get HP numbers on the Gen 3...

Agreed. I know someone who I guarantee is towing too much with his Tundra. The payload is definitely too high considering the hitch in the bed, and it's gotta be darn close to max weight rating otherwise, if not slightly over. That V8 pulled it through the mountains down to florida and back without skipping a beat. Heck, once when it snagged the emergency braking cable when turning at a stoplight that 5.7L dragged that four and a half tons of dead weight with its four locked tires off the busy road into a parking lot. Horsepower cannot be what determines that truck's tow rating. However there's a weak link somewhere, otherwise the truck wouldn't be rated for the weights it is, and I'd hate for him to figure out what it is the hard way.

I keep trying to talk him into a heavy duty truck with a diesel if he wants to drag that fifth across the country again. Stubborn man

 

Fortunately for me, I don't rely on my vehicle to make me feel like a man. I could drive a prius and not feel less of a man. Unfortunately for some others, they have to overcompensate with their vehicles to make up for their otherwise lacking manhood.

 

This girl motor or 3rd gen Tacoma really ruins your day I love it lol

 

^That's pretty much what I see in my mind every time I hear someone say that.

 

lol @ all the "girl motor" posts. Just one more to add to the ignore list, you morons really need to
get a grip. Why you'd just come here to bitch about something you don't want and don't intend to
purchase is laughable.

 

So am I, hence why I am saying going with the car motor into the truck is stupid as Colorado, and Honda Ridgeline examples had shown over past 10 years. Not Sure why Toyota thinks they will luck out.

You rant tells me right there that you never worked as professional driver. Let me tell you the same thing old timer Truck driver from Louisiana told me when I started my OTR adventure.
"If its legal you haul, get that safely to destination every time"
Kiddos like you would come every month, than cry that either Backhoe was too tall or Excavator to wide on their trailer, or load of steel on flatbed was too heavy.
Than finally they get passed on loads and they would sit in the bar with beer complaining that people steal their jobs, in the meantime others are were running with veterans because those old timers called kiddos like you with the name describing women part located between legs, because they did not want to listen somebody whining for 16-24 hours straight so when there was load requiring two trucks they did not pick kiddos like you.
There is no your opinion in professional driving.
DOT will not share your opinion that 3% is negligible if you are 3% over. And if you only want to drive at 80% you better be carrying your lady, because no trucking company will keep you around.
I don't know what you do in that company, but clearly you are not a driver.
So if you buying truck for towing and it says it can tow 6800 lb than it better be able to tow that much.
Hence why if one truck says it can tow 6800lb and other says 7000lb clearly if I get paid by mileage and weight (which is what a lot of drivers get) buying smaller truck to make less money off of it is stupid.

Now lets end this on this note:
If Toyota was proud of their Tow rating they would not sneak that information in interview with some online blog magazine thing.
Clearly they are embarrassed by it.

I dont know if you are Justin Bieber relative or what. But lets try this again. you 3% negligible is total BS, Ford F150 outsells Tundra by 7:1 so clearly 70000 people a month don't share your dum opinion.
Now on the end it does not matter how your Tundra feels towing the same load. If its rated for 10 000 and F150 is rated for 12 000 lb and your trailer is 11 000 than despite of what you think, and how Tundra tows, legally you can not tow your trailer behind Tundra because trailer is over the towing limit. So if people own campers etc, they have to buy Truck that can legally Tow more than 11 000LB and this is why Ford F150 outsells Tundra...
P.S. Oh and Its spelled MANDARIN you illiterate.

 

Dumb*

Just sayin

 

Understand but "Dum" was on purpose.

 

Except the 7GR isn't a car motor, it's used in a few foreign SUV's....

Dude, you are the one who started talking about the DOT. Seriously, stop switching between what's legal and what some redneck told you. It just shows you are willing to bend facts whenever it suits you.

I make up loads for a living. Don't flirt with load limits. Once you are caught the Transport cops will be looking for your trucks every time. It's not worth it. End of story. Now if you have a owner/operator hauling loads for you and your name isn't on the trailer, who gives a crap if he follows limits. This goes back to the DOT and being smarter than the average idiot. Do what works to your advantage.

Also, don't flirt against the limit on a light truck. A summer student could snap an axle being dumb and then the hazardous goods they were hauling are now in the ditch. When you have a bigger truck with some safety margin available you use it.

I would likely never buy a truck with a 6800 lbs limit and use it for towing loads at work. Further more I would never count on a 200 lbs difference in towing having any use to me legally (like your initial statement said.) It's really that simple.

Yes, part of my job is shipping orders. I do up the paperwork for loads and decide which truck and/or trailer to use for the loads. I also deal in bulk liquid.

? Toyota hasn't started selling the truck yet. Once it hits the pavement Toyota will advertise there truck in the way they feel it has the most advantages. Right now Chevrolet is out trying to get Civic owning guys to buy "a real man" truck in the Colorado. Does that mean you need a Colorado to be a real man? HELL NO.

Get the logic.

3% payload has nothing to do with sales .

I bought an F150. I didn't buy it for max payload because my truck isn't in a configuration that gives me the maximum payload or towing numbers. I bought the F150 because the V8 has class leading efficiency without the complexity of the other guys, it drives extremely well on the road, it's deathly quiet, the last several Fords I've had a work have been rock solid, and because it can tow the bumper hitch trailer I need. If the Tacoma has the right set of characteristics for buyers, much like the F150 has for my family, then people will buy it. People don't just buy the truck with the highest payload, highest towing, lowest cost of ownership, etc because every truck has advantages and disadvantages. People buy what fits there perceived and real needs the best, and Tacoma has being doing that extremely well for most people for 20 years.

Stop quoting legal limits in the same post where you say real professionals ignore legal limits. What you are doing is not making a logical argument. I also said 8K trailer for a reason, maybe you should actually read my post again and get the real point I was trying to make. Which is that HP and Torque are rarely the legal, and otherwise, reason you should not tow right against your load limit with any truck. Several other posters got that point. I'm not sure why it's so hard for you.

Oh, and let me fix your last statement. P.S. Oh, you do know it's spelled mandarin right? You're illiterate.

At least use proper grammar when you are insulting someone about their use of a language.

 

BTW I never, ever, would be stupid enough to complain if someone who was an employee of our company who worked hauling loads for our company thought the way we were doing things wasn't safe. With the way the world works now you can't ever do that. What happens if they submit there complaints OSHA or other workplace safety legal bodies and then get they get into an accident in which there concern turned out to be correct? You would be fucked royally and not just the company, but you yourself, would have legal repercussions.

When someone has a concern with safety you document it and do your best to address it. If it's frivolous you have someone else who can legally sign off on the activity do so, you never just dismiss it as frivolous. Doing otherwise will cause you more headaches in a large company than anyone wants to deal with.

 

Oh, and I want to clear one last thing up. I would never suggest that trucking companies haul 20% less than max loads. I would tell you though that no company calculates loads right up to the last pound, UNLESS they have a scale for verification. The DOT/Transport Canada aren't going to let you off the hook because your paperwork says your load is legal and their scale says it's not. Every company factors in a percentage of error. Depending on how heavy the load is and what company you deal with, that percentage changes.

I was using 20% for comparing most vehicles in the same class. Very few people would have any problem towing with any current half ton at 8000 lbs. At 10,000 lbs, like you mentioned, all of the available half tons on the market are going to struggle in one way or another. That is my point about tow ratings right there. If you buy a Colorado because you want to tow 6,900 lbs and the Tacoma won't do it on paper you aren't going to have a fun time. You should be buying a full sized truck at that point.

 

This thread gave me cancer

 

Okay cool. Thanks Doc

 

So BlueT causes breast Cancer?

 

Maybe now we can have a chat that doesnt involve the sex of a piece of metal?

 

Its a soccer mom motor .