Looks like it's not a 7GR, EPC partially updated: 2GR-FKS

Well that and they don't want the competition to have a target spec # to work for.

 

I dont know if they will require for Tacoma but most of their Di vehicles are required/strongly suggested do.
Which is something I 100% agree. I would not run Di engine on anything less than premium. Especially in places with higher temperature. People in Northern portion of Country maybe able to get away with 87, but anything below i80 may need premium all the time.

 

Exactly, I haven't heard anything from Honda yet either and they are suppose to have the new Ridgeline out roughly the same time as the Frontier and Tacoma.

 

The Honda Pilot engine specs have been released for 2016. Also with a 3.5 liter V6. I am guessing the Tacoma will have similar specs.

 

Why...

Fuel/Air mix is fuel air mix once it is in there. Yes there are considerations to take into account with how the air is compressed and flows in the motor but a blank statement like "all DI engines should run Primium" is a little silly. If the engine is tuned for 87 there won't be any major problems. If people want a smoother running engine Primium might calm it down, but that's it. The F150 Ecoboost uses DI and forced induction. I don't see anyone running Primium in those trucks and they do just fine.

No offense, but it seems like you are stretching for new reasons to not like this truck.

 

2016 Honda Pilot -3.5-liter V-6 280 horsepower and 262 pound-feet of torque.

I suspect the new Tacoma will have similar specs. The torque on the new Pilot engine is just 4 ft lbs less.

 

Highway mileage is pretty good: 6spd/9spd auto: 26/27 highway

I hope it gets the Honda vacuum as a option

 

Well and I am sure some people who have TRD superchargers also run on 87.
Whats your point.
Its not a matter of mappings. You will be injecting fuel into compressed air or air locked in place. You want that fuel to have higher flash point. I mean people can run whatever they want, I wouldn't but not my car, so what do I care, I am not the one who is going spend money or repairs

 

They have 9 spd Auto ?
Laugh all you want about Vacuum but my Wife asked me to do the mod on her truck to install Vacuum after watching Honda commercial.
I am goign to say they are targeting right group....

 

I believe that engine is direct injection only? That would nerf a bit of power.

 

The black grill looks so much better then that awful chrome one. There is no need for Toyota to slap on a bunch of cheap unnecessary chrome! And in all honesty that is probably the best looking 2016 I have seen so far, make it a double cab and then it would look even nicer.

 

Yes on the Touring and Limited model.

 

Yes it is a matter of mappings, but you can still map a DI for 87 just fine. I'm not going to start an argument but what you are saying is just silly. Millions of cars run DI with 87 recommended and I don't see any giant problems with it.

 

It is DI only. The part I'm not so excited is the addition of the variable cylinder management aka VCM. I believe there is still a ongoing issue and class action lawsuit about them. I cross my fingers the second gen VCM better then the first gen.

 

No argument, here. I would not run Di or Supercharged engine on anything else than premium for exact same reason. So you are running 87 in your TRD supercharged truck too?

Anyway people have this expectation that when you do something silly (like run wrong fuel for engine). Engine should immediately explode to let you know it was wrong fuel.
But they Don't, they keep running with more wear and less efficiency.
You only realize how bad it was when you take that thing a part.

 

My S/C is mapped for 91 so that's what I run. If it was mapped for 87 I would run 87.

You'll know pretty quick if you run the wrong octane in an engine designed for a higher octane. PING!

It's not running the wrong fuel if you run the recommended fuel for the engine. If an engine recommends 87, run 87. If it recommends 91, run 91. Simple concept.

If you want to know how "resistance to knock" really works, you should look into heat of vaporization. That has just as much to do with preventing knock as the flash point of a fuel.

 

Some of these comments, as an automotive student, are making me gag. I'll not name names, but a certain trouble maker in this thread has no idea how engines work.

That being said, no, having a higher flash point is not what people want. We want an engine to run, and if anyone is unaware, internal combustion engines run on just that--combustion, perfectly timed combustion. Engines from the manufacturer are timed and tuned for optimum efficiency at a recommended minimum octane fuel rating. Feeding an engine with fuel of a higher flash point that it is not mapped for will reduce efficiency and retard that timing, which in some cases can result in a loss of power.

If we all wanted a higher flash point, we'd be putting diesel in our gasoline engines. Anyone with a happy report on how that works, raise your mouse.

 

Exactly. Heat of vaporization, flash point, and explosive velocity, plus I'm sure a few other variables I know nothing about because I never studied explosions in that much detail, are all need to calculate the timing map which ensures our engines run properly and within designed specifications.

This is why fuel has an Octane rating, which is a unique unit of measure, and not some other common rating.

 

Yeah, so how many people have Ping on 1GR even so there are mappings for 87?
Look as I said I would not run, if you want to run than run 87. Not my engine not my repair

I suggest get 2016 and run 87 every time...