So Toyota is wussing out on the Engine, dang it. 270HP but add gearing

270 hp is plenty .. The pre 2007 Chevy 5.3 v8's had around that much and that's a full size truck.

 

You do realize
HP = (Torque x RPMs)/5252
Right ?
So the only reason that engine claims to have more HP is because it can spin faster...
And the only way it can spin faster is because its car engine with thinner/smaller components (weaker)
Right?

 

Ridgeline forum again....

 

Well, at least you googled it this time, but your logic is still unsound. Peak torque and peak HP occur at different parts of the RPM band. If the engine peaked at 280 ft/lbs of torque at 2800 RPMs. HP at that point in time would be about 150. Peak horse power tells you nothing.

BTW, the Colorado engine is a car engine, taken straight out of a Cadillac

BTW, a shorter stroke engine actually has more robust connecting rods and cranks even if the exact same forging/casting process is used. Take a long stick and try to break it. Continue to break it down and notice how when the pieces are shorter, they are harder to break.

BTW, why is there ANOTHER thread on this shit?

 

Not trying to be difficult, I just dont understand why you mention the well known HP formula as justification for your assumptions regarding torque? So torque numbers could, say, run from 295 lb.ft @4800 rpms to 218 lb.ft @ 6500 rpms. Do you have some info on when peak torque is reached in the RPM range? For NA engines, torque is usually a function of piston stroke, so even with a HP number, we still have no idea what the peak torque number is. I dont know, maybe I'm missing something (it happens!).

Edit: standrew beat me to it

 

It would never be enough for some of these folks.

Blue T I have come to the realization that you will not be getting a 16 because financially you can't make it happen or you have a spouse who won't allow it.You have knocked the 16 way before any specs have been released,already knowing it would be a minivan or car motor with not enough horsepower or torque.Hopefully you can make a 17 happen in your future.Good luck,save your money!!

 

Every new thread, I'll say the same thing, car engine in a truck. No low end torque, towing at 3 to 4 grand on the tach.
Looking at a '15, and it doesn't have all the little options of my '12 (as stated before), no compass, different lighting, clock in the radio, little stupid shit.

 

Lol!

 

Colorado engine is out of the Camaro, whats your point? Ive said this in every thread: EPA regulations are forcing smaller engines; better keep what you have because ALL truck engines are getting smaller.

 

The new engine is from the same series as the current 1GR engine, which started the series. Additional tuning and modifications, like bore and stroke, direct injection, etc., for different applications, but essentially the same engine.

 

Yup you got me, that's exactly what it is, I am just freaking jealous of truck with car engine in it...

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Who would not want to trade bulletproof truck with Land Cruiser engine in it, land cruiser designed and manufactured transmission for truck with car parts in it.
Shit I am so f..ing tired of 2gen truck acting like a big truck.. towing excavators, loads of mulch, offroading, and not breaking.
I want truck with car engine so it sounds more like Honda Civic when I am climbing the hills, I want my transmission to overheat with 8 bags of sand on the bed, I want my transfer case to explode when I am climbing the hills in winter in 4x4...

but I can not afford that ultimate pimp mobile called 2016 Tacoma. You got me ssg ....

/sarcasm

 

I posted to give a chance... but
Can we agree on something ? If peak torque is less than 1GR we will officially call this engine the worst POS out there ?

 

I doubt if a V8 is in the cards for the Tacoma.
You should have purchased a Dodge Dakota with the hemi, when it was still being produced.

 

@12 mpg

 

Toyota really fucked your day up man....hope your day gets better

 

Good God.... another one of these threads without actually facts and like I have said in the other threads:


Canada doesn't count......

 

Hoping one day all these a moderator will roll through and delete all these threads.

The new engine is a good step, heck it's 40 more horsepower than what I have. What some of you are failing to realize, it's better performance in a smaller, lighter 3.5L package. With the reduction in wight and addition in power, it's going to perform better than the 2nd gen 4.0L.

 

I didn't realize comparing the torque of one engine to the torque of another engine was the determining factor for whether or not an engine was a piece of shit. hmm I guess an old 22re is a POS, I mean it only has 140 ft-lbs of torque and a Chevy LS1 has 350 ft-lbs of torque, never mind that the 22re is arguably one of the most reliable engines ever made, but less torque=POS.

 

Hey you guys are getting it wrong.... The 270 HP is great, the problem is the torque curve will be lower and trucks need torque.... The torque will be in the 245 range, like I said before there are lots of 3.5 that are in this power range and they don't tow as good.... So Toyota will need to use more gearing to make up the difference and than it will tow as good or better but I feel they won't... the 6 speed only adds another overdrive and I doubt they will put in 4.11 gears, so how are they going to make up for less torque..... They are focused on MPG at all cost.....

If they had 270 hp and 270 tq that is better, reducing the tq is a push and in a truck at 3000 rpm it's less power..... Now add 4 wheel drive and big tires....
The engine will be a better daily driver and that's it..... Next it will have front wheel drive and non selectable gears.....

 

I had 2 of those 22RE's, great engine...but damn, that thing couldn't get out of its' own way. I never want an under powered engine again...I used to drive air-cooled VWs too...meh.

While I don't need a monster power of an engine, but a little more than needed is better than not having enough. I do think the the new Taco engine will be fine for the majority of buyers (including me). I don't buy Tacomas for a work truck....if I needed a work truck...I would a F350

That is what most people use them for...I know I do. It spends majority of its' time running around unloaded. I wouldn't want to daily drive a F350...some people do though, and that is ok.

If I needed more "truck" I would buy something else.