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She's got a saggy rear end

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by tacoflaco, Jun 26, 2015.

  1. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:09 PM
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    ToyTec was my first stop. They advised that everything they sell will add lift which is something I don't want to do at the moment.

    Interesting idea...I'll have to do a little more research into those I reckon.

    I did check their site out yesterday. If you have a moment after you put yours in, I'd be curious on what, if anything, they do to the ride quality and/or unloaded ride height.
     
  2. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:12 PM
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    Let me know how this works out for you.
     
  3. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:16 PM
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    Dakar with d29xl aal.. When I run my leer cap and tepui autanna i still have a slight rake.. Very happy with this setup
     
  5. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:20 PM
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    How much did that set-up run you? I can do the custom Deavers for ~ $750. I had Dakars on my 2008, IIRC, I paid about $450 for those and I'm assuming the AALs will be around $100. At that point I think I'd just spend the extra $200 and go with the Deavers.

    Also, even more importantly, my Dakars on my 2008 squeaked like a MOFO so I vowed to never buy them again. Are you having any squeaking issues?
     
  6. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:20 PM
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    Reconsider the air bags - Love my RideRites
     
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  7. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:22 PM
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    Yeah, I have strongly considered bags, but if I do, I'm going to want to have on-board air so I can adjust whenever I want, wherever I want. I just don't want to mess with that. Plus, from the reading/research I've done, it seems like some off-road performance/capability is sacrificed with bags, but I'm not entirely clear or sure about that.
     
  8. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:23 PM
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    On board air you will still be under $700.
     
  9. Jun 26, 2015 at 2:28 PM
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    The ARB compressor I looked at is $500 and bag kits seem to run about $350 or so.

    I'm going to sound like a dick by saying this, but believe me, it isn't my intention, but I'm really not at all concerned about the cost. My primary goals are: 1) no lift, 2) maintain factory ride height when loaded or unloaded. If the Deavers are the only way to do it, that's totally fine. I just wanted to be sure that I was considering all options.
     
  10. Jun 26, 2015 at 5:18 PM
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    I'll be honest with you, if you think the Deavers will give you what you want over the airbags, I personally think you're mistaken. If I were you I'd do the airbags, but that's me.
     
  11. Jun 26, 2015 at 5:57 PM
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    I agree with Salty. I rarely mess with my air bag pressure. I occasionally check it and add air if I need to. I have the Daystar cradles, so they don't limit droop. I'm a firm believer. I've had them on 4 different trucks and love them. You could do the mid size ARB compressor and still be under the price of Deaver - and you'll eventually want air anyway (contact Anzy when it's time). I had my bags for 2 years before I installed air and it was never a hassle. If you want to adjust to higher psi, go to a gas station. Actually, I've heard that a bicycle pump works well for airing up your bags - there isn't much air space in there.
     
  12. Jun 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM
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    a hand bicycle pump would be perfect for air bags, you could fine tune them SUPER easy with them.

    Or grab an MV50 / MF1050 air compressor from pepboys for like 50 bucks, good quality little unit.


    And still interested to hear back on the D29XL leaf ends... considering that to throw in just below the first main leaf of the stock leaf pack.
     
  13. Jun 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM
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    Thanks Salty, Siesta, and Tokyo. I'll for sure reconsider the bags and do more research. I was skeptical of them being a solution for me not just because of the on-board air issue, but from the research I've done, it seems that there is a sacrifice made with bags in terms of off-road capability of the truck as well as ride quality. Is this accurate in your experience(s)?
     
  14. Jun 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM
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    I do not have any experience in using them off-road. As for ride quality there is no difference to stock ride. There will be a ride difference if you go to helper leafs or Deavers, a preloaded leaf pack creates a "hard ride" feel un-loaded, even with your cap you will note more "tail hop" and "hard ride" unless you're in the designed weight range of the preloaded leaf pack.

    I chose the Air Lift system because I did not want the "hard ride" of a stronger leaf pack, I just need a little strength in the leaf pack a few times a year when hauling a trailer and the Air Lift allows that.
     
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    "She's got a saggy rear end..."

    That's a terrible thing to say about someone! :)
     
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    I couldn't agree more! I just thought it would be a good way to get people to at least read the thread instead of using the tired, old, "leaf spring question" thread title. :)
     
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    I was just kidding Mr tacoflaco. It worked! I read it and I don't even know what a leaf spring question is :rolleyes:.
     
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    +1 to bags and on-board air. My Tacoma is 2wd so I didn't have to go with the Daystar cradles. I used this excellent write-up as inspiration for my OBA setup: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/viair-on-board-air-install.361924/#post-9821192

    Pulled the camper out of storage a couple weeks ago. Drove over on the stock ride, hooked up the trailer and aired up the bags plus trailer tires and checked truck tires before hitting the road. The convenience was fantastic and the ride when towing was as close to stock as I'd ever imagine I could get.
     
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    I've been pumping up my Firestone bags for years with a bicycle pump stashed under the tool box. Takes seconds, have the valves in the driver side storage in the bed. Also have the DayStar cradles, and they are perfect for off roading, and hauling my 600 plus pounds of tools daily.
     
  20. Jun 30, 2015 at 4:43 AM
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    I keep mine at 35 psi all the time. I wheel it like that too. With that much pressure, it does limit the up travel of the suspension. If I air them down to 5 psi (stock ride height) I would travel from my bumps (actually, the bumps are gone) to the limit of my springs. Without the Daystar cradles, the bags would limit down travel. I'm not a rock crawler, so I don't air down the bags when wheeling. I air down the tires - and this is why I have OBA, not because of the bags. Now that I think of it, I still haven't used my OBA to adjust my air bags.
     
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