Looks like it's not a 7GR, EPC partially updated: 2GR-FKS

So is it a 7gr or a 2gr?

 

Toyota's always had rust issues. They know how to build drive trains, their bodies and frames are another issue.



Pretty sure Toyota has cornered the market on rust (ok back to your regular scheduled programming)

 

My 2002 has zero rust. I live in Wyoming though.

 

I had a '85 4Runner while living in PA, it was only a couple years old when I bought it...it was already starting to get body rot, and I was diligent about spraying the salt off.

My poverty 1st gen is an original AZ vehicle, had no rust what so ever, that was until this past year moving to Idaho, and it doesn't really snow much here, however winter is fairly wet compared to AZ, I need to get under there and paint before fall, as Toyota told me I am shit out of luck for a frame replacement.

 

Toyota doesn't coat the frames, Dana Corp does. That was the entire premise of the lawsuit; Dana's rust coating was not effective.

 

I see four main bearings on the crankshaft. 1gr-fe has six main bearings.

Problem, not a problem? I'm no expert, but I recall something about with heavy duty applications you want six main bearings to reduce stresses on the crankshaft and the crankcase. Especially with all aluminum engines. Even the Tacoma four cylinder has five main bearings.

 

Could also have to do with this engine not getting a S/C.

 

4runner frames are built by Toyota and coated by Toyota yet still have exact same problem.

Minivans (cars) dont need that many main bearings.
Hence why I keep saying this engine is car engine and Toyota sucks for installing car engine in a truck. Also I pity the fool that buys that rip off on wheels.

I am also glad some of the fan boys here are going to buy that truck. With that crappy engine there will be a lot of cheap frames from trucks with dead engines.


Calling dibs on first donor...

 

Where are you guys seeing the bearings on this engine...

Edit: Nevermind, I couldn't see the second picture on my phone for whatever reason. It appears there are 4 crankshaft bearings. Whatever that means...

Anyways I won't judge this tiger by it's stripes. I honestly don't know enough about metallurgy and load stresses to say what metals, bearing, etc this engine needs to be tough enough for the Tacoma, which is honestly not in need of the toughest engine to start with.

I am very disappointed with the pricing I've seen this morning on the V6 trucks. Looks like it'll be well into the $40K range for a Tacoma DC in Canada now. I was planning on hanging on to my 2013 for at least 7 years anyways, but I'm disappointed to see that pricing go up so much.

 

Can only have 4 main bearings on a V-6. 1GR has 4 main bearings. Are you referring to 4 vs 6 bolt on the main bearing cap? Yes, I believe the 1GR uses a 6 bolt main bearing cap as does most of Toyota's new engines. I would be very surprised if this engine is a 4 bolt design. Can't really tell in the pic though.

I am curious if those are oil squirters though...

Doesn't make your wrong statement any more right. Judging by your sustained lack wit posts, I'm hesitant to believe this one.

 

I'm not expert enough to know if 4 vs 6 will be a problem but it seems to me six main bearings will handle a load better than four main bearings.

1GR-FE clearly shows six main bearings on the crankshaft vs clearly four main bearings on the crankshaft on the supposed new V6.

 

I just realized it. Count the bearings on both sides of the image. They are equal between the 1 GR and the new engine. Some of those bearings are for the connecting rods.

 

It is a 6 bolt crank cap (4 bottom, 1 per side). Those are oil squirters.

 

Looks to me from the diagrams the con rod bearings are pictured on top of the crankshaft, the crankshaft main bearings are pictured below the crankshaft. Looks to me that there are six crankshaft bearings on the 1GR-FE, only four crankshaft bearings on the new V6.

 

I count ten bearings total at the bottom/middle of both pictures. Six for the connecting rods and 4 for the crankshaft?

 

If you were correct, there would only be 4 conrod bearings in the 1GR. Look at the picture again and count the total number of bearing sets in each photo. 10.

 

Those look more like Brass Bushings.... Toyota going back to the basics

 

Hard to tell what's a bushing or bearing from such a simple diagram, not to mention I'm not a certified mechanical engineer .

That's what I thought. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only person seeing it that way.

 

Difference in schematics I guess. Yeah, ten total.

 

The TIS is annoyingly inconsistent with stuff like that. The one that annoys me is that they used to have a crank torque curve in the TIS. They haven't been doing it lately, though.