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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Jul 6, 2015 at 7:15 PM
    jberry813

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    Yup
     
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    I was looking at doing it purely due to ease of maintenance purposes. It would be easier for me to swap out a heim than it would be swapping out a tie rod. My drivers side OE rod lasted a total of 3 years and 60,000 miles. So I was thinking maybe doing the inner heim would offer more strength and longevity if ran with a boot, but if its going to be a problem I don't want to do that either.
     
  3. Jul 6, 2015 at 7:53 PM
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    It takes longer to wash the grease off your hands than to change an inner TRE.
    And running a boot over a heim will just trap shit inside and destroy the heim liner faster.
     
  4. Jul 6, 2015 at 7:55 PM
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    If this quote didn't turn me off of running any kind of heimed steering, I don't know what else would. Good to know man, thanks dude. Looks like I'll pick up a MOOG replacement inner TRE wash my hands and call it a day for 2-3 more years.
     
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  5. Jul 6, 2015 at 8:06 PM
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    Inner and outer tie rods are cheap too...would rather replace that then a heim joint
     
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  6. Jul 6, 2015 at 8:08 PM
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    They are surprisingly a lot cheaper for this truck then I thought they would be actually.
     
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    I ordered all mine from Amazon. lol @jberry813 changed my inner at MOAB last year. Lucky for me @Pelfreybilt had an extra inner.
     
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  8. Jul 7, 2015 at 9:26 AM
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    Nevermind... I don't know anything in regards to trucks... I work on lowered imports most of the time.
     
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  9. Jul 7, 2015 at 9:37 AM
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    I've had full exposed heimed steering on my truck for the better parts of 4 years now, heims are still good. no boots over them. Been through 2 racks in that time too
     
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  10. Jul 7, 2015 at 9:48 AM
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    Fair enough. But I did quote him specifically with his truck, not exactly a generic blanket statements. However....with qualifications.

    You're truck is a first gen desert truck with tube or solid stock tie rod. Which means you have basically just a dusty environment paired with a tube tie rod, which the right diameter boot can easily make a nice tight seal on.

    He has a second gen daily driver with stock components and lives in the bay area. Which means salt, rain, mud, grime and shit. Paired with factory outer TRE...which are far from large diameter and would be challenging to get a tight boot seal. My point is if shit gets inside the boot, it will deteriorate the heim faster. IMO, the boot is more important for the rack seals, not the heim.
     
  11. Jul 7, 2015 at 9:52 AM
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    You're right, I'm wrong, I'll go back to doing my thing... Nevermind...
     
  12. Jul 7, 2015 at 9:53 AM
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    You mad bro? Thought we were just talking it through and qualifying the blanket statements?
     
  13. Jul 7, 2015 at 9:55 AM
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    Nope, but I'm obviously clueless or wrong since you had to correct me so no point in me telling our first hand experience... Heims will fail if you get them dirty, never run them!
     
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    Huh? What did I correct you on? I confirmed your setup, not corrected. Tube tie rod, tight seal, shit stays out of the boot. Not exactly apples to apples with the guy that was asking.
     
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    Christ, take a menopause pill. You're clearly misinterpreting what I'm saying. I never said heims fail if you get them dirty. They are designed to be in the elements. How many links do you see with boots on the heims? My point is when shit gets trapped in the boot.....there's nowhere for it to go. The elements (be it dirt/water/mud/etc) just roll around inside the boot and deteriorate the heim faster than if it was just exposed and the shit runs off. You mitigate that problem with your boot seal. I'm not telling you lack experience or clueless or anything of the sort.
     
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    Alright. Well, here's another for the long time LT'ers and general dudes who run their stuff pretty hard.

    What are you guys doing to secure your headlights with broken tabs? My tabs are broken on the lower mounting portion of the headlight housings and I can't figure out a way to keep them from moving around down there. Being that I wheel hard enough to break them off their bolt on locations at the bottom, new housings will just suffer the same fate.
     
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    Heim joints with a boot over them :cookiemonster:
     
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    buy new headlights and solid mount them to a new core support
     
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    Tube a new front end core support you mean?
     
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