Pricing Opinions

I was just checking out the leaked pricing sheet and was curious if anyone else thought the pricing is a little bit steep, especially at the lower end models. I live in the northeast so 4x4 is mandatory for me. Looking at the base model SR, which is basically the smallest truck you can buy with fewest options is around 27k-28k out the door.

I thought the 4cyl models were only going to come with an automatic transmission, but it says MT is available on the spreadsheet, so I will figure it based on that.

7513: Access Cab MT 4cyl SR FE BZ (Basically fleet vehicle, blacked out door handles, grille, mirrors, bumpers, rear:seat/cupholder/headrest/seatbelt delete, manual doors, no cruise. I'm not sure about manual windows. Fixed rear window. $23,875

Vehicle: $23,875.00
Destin: $ 885.00
Tax: $ 1,671.25
Reg: $ 300.00
$26,731.25

If it only comes with the auto transmission it would be: $28,229.25 w/tax & fees.



For this minus the tonneau cover and add blacked out mirrors and door handles.

If you got any options at all basically, you're around 30k minimum. For a 4cyl 4x4 access cab.. You really can't buy a cheaper 4x4 truck than this.

I'm not complaining that they are so much more overpriced than anyone else, and obviously resale value, dependability, and hopefully mpg's make this more palatable, but does anyone else feel like prices have gotten out of hand with small trucks?

 

They are on par with the GM twins pricing. There is a demand for midsized/small trucks, guys that just dont want the big 1/2 tons and the manufacturers know this. If you look at pricing it makes sense, a fully loaded tacoma will be about $39k, whereas a fully loaded tundra is north of $50k. They wont have any problem selling every one of them, just like GM has with every Colorado/Canyon. All truck prices have been bad, you think Toyota is outrageous go price out a new F150.

 

I know that they are comparable to the GM twins, and I agree that toyota will have no problem selling every single truck they make regardless of my feelings. I'm the kind of person that saves up and pays cash for my vehicles. So my point is that if I got to the Toyota dealer across the street from my house and buy a Toyota Tacoma access cab 4cyl 4x4 auto fleet truck as seen in the picture above I will be between 28-29k dollars lighter in the pocket. On my short drive home I'm not sure if i'll actually be happy that I just spent that much money on the smallest cheapest fleet truck available that will in no way turn heads or do anything special other than take my garbage to the dump and pickup mulch on the weekends.

That being said I'm going to drop 37k(ish) on a trd model and will at least like the truck I buy. I'm not going to feel any better about the price though. We are American men after all and trucks are mandatory to keep up with the status quo

 

Lol. Everyone is baffled when they asked how much my taco was. Even paying $32k was a hard pill to swallow after paying $35k for a loaded Z71 Silverado in 2014 (impulse mistake). I feel you and good for you you pay cash, maybe someday I'll be so lucky. As far as status quo, taco owners arent those type, we value our trucks for what they do, reliability, mods, etc. If you want an american brodozer you have to at least go 1/2 ton. I am reminded of this every time I pull into the parking lot at work or at the track to ride. It will leave your wallet feeling light, but in the end its a wise purchase for a vehicle, dependable, high resale, great mods, always stand the test of time looks wise and though what others may say, the toyota service experience Ive had is better than GM and Ford.

 

Personally I thought the price change isn't that bad considering the new technology and changes they made, I thought it would be more. People may complain they're too expensive, but mid sized trucks are popular. You may pay a little more upfront for a Toyota, but you're paying for quality and reliability. You'll save more money down the road not having to deal with expensive repairs and you know they'll hold their value a lot more than the other brands.

 

FWIW, I think the only MT paired with the 4cyl is the 5spd and I think that is available only with a 4cyl 4X4 (which I know is what you want). All 2WD 4cyl get 6spd Auto, I think.

Considering this I think any benefits of going with a 3rd gen is minimized. You can get a 2nd gen 4cyl 4X4 5spd MT now for less. There may be some options not present on the 3rd gen but maybe the cost benefit is worth it considering the similar drive train and probably very similar mpg.

 

I couldn't agree more that if you're going to spend the money the Taco is a great if the not the best choice you can make. I'm know I'm going to offend someone here, but I've personally never found anything desirable about GM's product. I will say that they are headed in the right direction though. I've always preferred Japanese quality/reliability in cars and trucks. The full size chevy trucks/suv's are the best product they make imo. I've heard 'some' people rave about the quality of the new gm twins, but I really don't see it. It may be the best midsize up until now, but still not even close to being an option for me over the Tacoma. My father drives a '14 full size chevy and I do like the truck, I just don't love it. Again some aspects of quality surprise me on 48k dollar vehicle. I've driven my 04 tundra for 11 years and it's still a solid truck, but I won't pull the trigger on a new one because 15mpg is pretty crappy being that it's 2015. My 04 get's 16mpg.. Not that I'm really too concerned about gas prices but it's still a thought. I don't really need a full size anyway and have owned and loved a few tacomas/pickups (80's style).

 

That's a very good point. I haven't heard any information on changes to the 2.7l other than new transmission options. It seems like they would have done some tuning or adding DI or PI to make it more efficient.

FYI I'm planning on buying a 16 TRD model, but when your processing a purchase the practical side of me says "Well I really want that, but do I need it?" So I figured up what it would cost for a base model with absolutely nothing to see if the value was too good to pass up over my impractical wants. It was not imo.. The older I get I remember when the Gen 2's came out and I was looking at a regular cab 4x4 stick with an msrp of 19k and thought wow that's a good deal. Now I look a fleet vehicle for 28k and think wow I remember what I used to be able to buy for 28k and they were a lot more vehicle than I'm getting for the money now; however, I do understand there are better technologies, inflation, etc.. That being said the Tacoma is unbeatable in reliability, capability and resale value and will still be located in my driveway again in the near future.

 

During one of the early interviews the toyota guy said the 2.7L would have the same output but, yeah I wonder about improvements in efficiency. As it stands I don't see how the 2.7L will get better mpg than the 3.5L and the only benefit would seem to be lower upfront costs and its a known quantity in terms of reliability.

 

I don't think pricing will change much from the current generation. I mean at 29k for a base model Tacoma I'd rather go full size.

 

You can't get a base model full size for 29k

 

It seems to me like Toyota is spending the vast majority of there R&D on the V6 model. Also, by pricing up the base model, as well as not offering anything new or substantial to the base model, would allow them to minimize the base models value and push people like me into a more expensive 35k dollar trucks as opposed to 28k dollar truck. It's sad that the little tacos of my memories are fleeting, but good for Toyota because they can get away with it, and make a crap ton of money in the process. I do like that all of the 4x2 models are now prerunner's with no more lower riders. They just look better imo.

 

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/637386369/overview/

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/641630877/overview/

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/631402486/overview/

 

You can get a base model full uize truck for that money. Personally I want a new Tacoma but I will wait until it is proven first.

 

It's July, those trucks are that price because they have been sitting on the lot since January or earlier. Look at the msrp: 6k more. I don't consider a v6 a base model in that size.

 

It's not exactly the same bc I included tax/reg/delivery in the Tacoma's price, so the ford would be around 32k out the door. Although you can get the Dodge for the same money as the taco. The point is that if you're buying a smaller truck for efficiency and better upfront costs in the form of value, there's really not much to be had. And therefore you pretty much mine as well buy the truck you like or need not based on pricing but on everything else (capability, looks, mpg's, etc..) Because they're priced comparatively and no longer offer a significant value over anything else. Which imo is unfortunate and the reason I started the thread.

 

This is certainly not worth arguing over, but they make a ton of full size trucks and discount them heavily.. always have and always will. The day the new f-150 came out it had a 4000 dollar rebate stuck to it. The MSRP is irrelevant if a brand new one can always be had for much cheaper.. The point is is that they can be had for that lower price.. Toyota does not discount there vehicles, so I can't wait for the fleet truck to be discounted by 4k to make it a good value.

 

This vs. That.. If your just looking for the best value, you'd at least have to consider the ford.

 

The pricing was already released/leaked, its a 500-$4000 price increase depending on model, etc, it is in fact more expensive than the current generation as expected with added tech, etc.