So Toyota is wussing out on the Engine, dang it. 270HP but add gearing

Exactly.... and if you need there is possibility to tow 7600 lb. Its a win .

Exactly....
3.42 gears + 4 cyl Diesel + 6 speed transmission + Midsize = 30 MPG all day everyday.
And if 30 MPG is not enough, ability to run Bio20 means easy conversion to run FREE fuel..
Who cares about MPG if you can run on FREE fuel

 

Now if we could only get Toyota to pull their head out of their a...ss

 

Restaurants and such are much less-likely to give away their fry grease waste now because it has value.

 

This except for when the price reaches in the full-size territory and honestly I don't understand why midsize trucks don't have 30% better MPG than full sizes. Theoretically if you stick the same drivetrain in a vehicle 2000 lbs lighter you should get better gas mileage and higher payload. I don't quite understand it and I'm sure there are plenty of reasons someone could enlighten me on?

 

Is this Duramax biodiesel capable? I know most North American diesels have issues running Biodiesel for long periods of time due to it's solvent properties.

 

In Europe there is a road tax on Canola oil. I'm sure it will happen here soon enough if Diesel ever catches on.

The mass of air that a mid size has to move is similar to a full size. The aerodynamics of the mid size aren't all that much better than there cousins that have 110% of the frontal surface area. That is why trucks struggle to get good fuel economy numbers.

 

Shoot, they are already there.

 

Yep, that ship has sailed. Most, if not all waste oil is already under contract with a WVO company.

 

I kinda figured they would do that. Every manufacture misses the mark one way or another.

 

Thought the big D-Maxes are Isuzu based and the Colorado is VM Motori?

 

Big one yes, but Commercial grease suckers are still unwilling to go to small places with not a lot of frying oil. So all you need is small restaurant. Even at 20 MPG (Lets say grease will not get you the same mileage and you are running hard) 20 gallon deep fryer per week will give you 400 free miles.
Plus BioDiesel and grease burn way cleaner than normal diesel.
VW TDi run thfryer grease like a champ but at 50-60 MPG I only needed around 5 gallons of fuel per week. So Poland Spring bottle of grease for a week of driving.

 

Well that was a nice dream. Looked into the Colorado Diesel a bit more and I'm not as excited. Timing BELT, urea tank under the box which limits suspension travel, urea tank under the box which forces the spare to sit even lower, and the transmission dampener sounds like it's failed on every other application. Not to mention the other known Colorado issues that still haven't been remedied.

Damn, I was just starting to think this could be a neat truck but it looks like a maintenance nightmare with the emissions system compromising it's offroad ability.

Not sure. I meant that the only thing in common at the end of the day between these motors is that GM is calling them Duramax.

BTW @BlueT did you notice this Duramax engine has oil squirters on the lower part of the engine? You said that's a feature on minivan motors not truck motors. Shucks darn, guess that's just one more girly motor you can't buy

 

The only thing it has going for it is good mpg, too many other marks against it to make it viable.

Say if my guesstimate of 24 hwy for the Tacoma is correct, the Toyota is the better buy...and most likely the better truck in the long run.

 

Yes I understand the aerodynamics aspect but I'm talking about pure weight. Is that theory not correct? 4000 lbs vs 6000 lbs should get better mpg than they currently do.

My point exactly! !!

 

Granted it is base model, but you can get a waaay more capable truck for the price of a mid-size. Heck, I have been looking at gasser 4WD F250's...I have seen them as low as $28K. Though right now, and the next 10-15 years I simply don't need that much truck...don't think I could live with 10 mpg either.

 

As a Tacoma owner, and a built Subaru RSTi ower, yea the Tacoma isnt fast lol. But it weighs more and the engine has less power. Its a truck lol. Even compared to my father's 5.7 tundra it feels slow. However my father said my Tacoma had great pick up for what it was in he borrowed it.

 

How are oil squirters a feature on minivans?

Duramax is a nice motor but Toyota's new GD diesel family is one of the most thermally efficient motor in the world. Would be nice to see it in the 2017 Tacoma.

 

Aerodynamics has more to do with fuel economy than weight. Drag from the air is always slowing you down, where with mass, objects in motion tend to want to stay in motion.

 

Depends. Weight is generally a bigger factor in city driving and aerodynamics is generally a bigger factor in highway driving.

There are ways to minimize weight as a factor by keeping large following distances, coasting when you can, and generally driving in a way that allows you to minimize the use of your brakes.

 

It was a joke directed at BlueT. No, oil squirters do not make an engine a minivan motor for any normal person.

BlueT was complaining that the 2GR-FXE for the new Tacoma had oil squirters underneath because they would be damaged doing truck stuff. The engine is protected by a skid plate and other parts shielding between it and the road for a reason.