So Toyota is wussing out on the Engine, dang it. 270HP but add gearing

*what

 

Don't worry about it, he's Canadian.

 

** No it's right, you just read it wrong and missed the context.

 

I'm still confused, I obviously missed something juicy and dramatic. What are the other 4 accounts?

 

I'm not trolling, I want to know the reasons behind this.

 

270hp @ 6200rpm and 248lb ft @ 4700RPM are the current RX350 2GR-FE numbers. Someone made a mistake.

 

Well damn, I want the is350 engine..

 

Looks like same engine in the RX is only 2 mpg better than 2nd gen Taco, not sure about the weight difference.

 

What website or app is that? It looks nice

 

www.fueleconomy.gov

 

Ya I don't get this, they say they even have a new emission system that eliminates 99% of NoX or whatever it is. Sounds like there pretty close to be able to meet emission standards.

 

Emission standards will only go up over the next few years.
Toyota will not put a diesel in N. America Any time soon if ever ! fn epa

 

What is coming is a 2.0lt Turbo four. Is already being announced for the camry. Is just a matter of time now to roll it out accross the toyota line up.

 

New IS 200t that engine is rated at, notice how low that torque is available:

241 hp @ 4,800-5,600 rpm/ 258 lb-ft @ 1,650-4,000 rpm

 

Also have to factor in cost of manufacturing. Do they ship it from overseas? Can their overseas plants support US demand? Do they open a new plant? Lots of money involved if they ever do bring the GD to the US.

 

Well, if other manufactures are able to do it regardless of what the EPA does...we prolly should be saying "effin' Toyota!" y u no bring deezul, 2 you esse aaa?

 

Some diesel manufacturers had a head start.

 

GM is bringing in the Diesel because they are trying to grow their position in the market. When you want to grow your position you try to do things the competition isn't, whether or not the data says it will pan out. That's just doing good business. Taking a shot in the dark like bringing a Diesel midsize to North America is an attempt to gain some competitiveness that GM desperately needs considering the company has some of the lowest profit margins out there.

Toyota owns the mid sized market. Look, the 10 year old Tacoma still outsold the twins by a huge chunk. If Toyota feels threatened at all by GM's Diesel they will bring their own. They are in the position to let someone else take the first leap and then they can follow up if necessary.

As for the new Toyota engine eliminating 99% of NOx, that's still not enough to pass tier 4 from what I've heard. Tier 4 mandated a 90% drop FROM TIER 3 #'s. IIRC Tier 3 was already maxing out what an engine could do with technology to eliminate as much NOx as possible, and Tier 4 basically said you have to do better than that. 90% better in fact.

This link talks about offroad standards, but the first paragraph goes through the history of the tier system in the USA.

https://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/nonroad.php

 

With a few tweaks like a performance oriented tune + more boost should be enough to put it in the 300s in both figures.