Frame... Just had an idea..!!

I've got a 2016 on order.. Have a 2006 now and saved the frame from rusting out by using "corrosion free", every year or so...

I'm thinking that if I get the new truck from the dealer and take it to my "Corrosion Free" guy... and get him to do it right away... that's good... BUT.. how about this idea..??

After my guy rust proofs the frame, and the rest of the truck....... I'm thinking that I should take a can of that expanding foam and fill the frame where it is "boxed" .... then NO water will ever get in there ... ever..

Does that make any sense to you guys...??

I don't know if the new tacos come with frame plugs or not... have to wait and see, I guess....

What Ya tink...??

 

Foam would actually absorb water and expand more I would think and not work I would think you could take it to a welder and have them seAL the Fram for you with scap metal then paint it and you would be good

 

Closed cell foam doesn't absorb water. But I dunno about the idea. You'd never know what existed behind the foam so if rust was developing and spreading inside the rail, it'd be unnoticed.

 

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Foam will trap moisture, and speed up rust.. But hey you can always try it

 

Just swap out the old, rusted frame into the 16 and get it warranteed. Then you will have two new frames.

Oh wait, that's fraud? They won't question a brand new rusted frame, will they?

 

Don't do it, water will seep into the foam and stay there accelerating rust.

 

Sounds like a bad idea. I would imagine after a few years little cracks would develop in the foam, allowing water to seep in and not drain out. And it would be almost impossible to re-apply any corrosion inhibitor in that part of the frame if you ever though it was necessary again. If the corrosion inhibitor spray worked well for your 2006 truck then just do the same thing with your new truck.

 

that idea of foam is GUARANTEED to speed up rot on that frame faster than
if it were bare metal

water will get in there and never dry, never be washable, and it will rot fast

the only thing that will work, and last, is thick tarry rustproofing like ziebart sprayed everywhere so that
it creeps and covers and flows and never dries out 100%. or fluid film sprayed the same way once a year.

 

You would need to spray fire retardant on it.

 

You know. Toyota actually supposedly switched manufacturers for the 09 and up Tacoma's and are now using Hino instead of Dana as their frame manufacturers. I really haven't had an real problems with rust on my 12 per se. Then again I live in an inland style setting.

 

But Dana sold off the offending frame manufacturing plant.

Hopefully Hino didn't buy it...

 

Metals bought them, Metalsa is Toyota frame manufacturer now ... Circle is back..

Very doubtful this will happen for any 2009+ vehicle. NHTSA rulling is clear, its owners fault poorly painted cars rust because there is not enough washing from salt during winter months.
NHTSA does not specify how to wash car at -14F with water

 

I have had seven Toyota trucks (many bought used) and never had one with a rust problem anywhere and most were rust free in Maine winters where we use a plethora of salt. Once a year, spray inside the body panels and the frame members with motor oil ( I use G Oil biodegradable)
If you want it to last longer before recoating , paint grease on weld areas where rust starts with a foam brush. Anyone can do it, it's cheap and easy, takes less then hour every other year if not every....and best of all....you have a ten year old truck without a speck of rust on the frame or body anywhere you treat and you will have a vehicle worth thousands more....Don't mess with aftermarket crappolla. It's too expensive and depends upon workmanship.

 

Wrong. Water needs to drain out through the drain holes. With all the wiring and components, you can never make the body panels water tight. Rust starts around the welds found at junctures between frame members and where body panels .YOU NEED ONLY coat areas with oil or grease.

 

You had me agreeing till you mentioned Ziebart. If it ever hardens, it encourages rust and if it clogs drain holes YOU ARE IN BIG TROUBLE. It is workmanship dependent and the guys that use it...don't care much, it isn't their cars. The fluid film which is light oil base and just reapplied yearly and does not clog drain holes, yes, that is xcellent. But why bother....just use biodegradable oil ! It's much much cheaper.

 

Horrible idea as it will trap moisture. I'm sure its been said a million times but I'm dramatic anyways

 

Right........everyone looks for the quick and easy fix and shops like Ziebart take advantage of people and make millions on strategies that don't work. You must treat rust prevention like any maintenace. You would not change your motor oil once in ten years and expect the inside surfaces of your motor to not wear. Because rust prevention requires you both, leave drain holes open and cut off 0 2 from metal surfaces including the frame, the only thing that works are FREE FLOWING oils like motor oil. And like motor oil, it must be reapplied seasonally.

 

The big question is why is this still a problem for Toyota? It's frikin ridiculous to still have rotting frames in these trucks.

 

I guess you guys are right...!! I'll leave it as is....

Just got news that my 2016 will be in at the end of Sept... whooo-Hooo..!!

 

Not really. Frames that rust early is just a " miscalculation" on the part of Toyota. No car is designed to be very rust resistant though all could be easily and cheaply compared to the damage caused by rust. Chromium could be added in varying amounts to extend the life of the frame....or the rest of the body for that matter. The bodies on all vehicles have improved for one reason only. Perforation mandates by the govt. and without them, your Tacoma would look like an old rusted Pinto in a couple of years in the rust belt. But, it's your choice; you can prevent it. My Toyota dealer has a body shop too...... Many of the workers there "oil" thier own cars to prevent them from rustling. When ever I buy a new Truck or car, I ask to speak to technition to get the skinny on the best areas to spray and strategies to get there. The off road package has the terrible one way plugs to keep water from getting inside the doors They are a bear to remove to spray oil into door body panels for example...without a little advice.