Intake

Has anyone installed a K&N intake and then reinstalled their factory intake with TRD air filter?

Looking at my intake, I see a TRD air filter and another filter (a screen) behind it. Is that something that can be removed to increase air flow?

I want to increase efficiency but I also want to not worry too much about dust, dirt, and water since I am off the beaten path, most of the time.

 

Pics? I wouldn't worry too much. I installed a kn cai on my 2010 and didn't notice any real benefit. Less than 1mpg better and zero additional power.

 

Well...here's the air box - will upload photos when I get home. Apparently I'm experiencing technic difficulties.

 

How would it not make a difference? There is something in the way of your airflow; slowing down the ingestion of air.

 

It's not about thickness.

It's a restriction after the air filter.

I used to road race motorcycles. No one ever put more restrictions into their airflow. I'm not aware of any performance intake that includes more restrictions. They may exist but in not aware of them.

 

That's like saying why would a manufacturer use a restrictive exhaust or not fully tune the engine.

If something is in the way it reduces efficiency.

 

Here is the carbon filter.

 

By your logic, changing to a higher flow filter does nothing. And base model shocks would be exactly the same as fox res shocks, and all tires and gears are the same.

Your math says an over all gain of 12 - 17 hp. That is significant, especially over the power band. An increase in efficiency is never bad. If you live in areas where you drive your vehicle, off road or on, this matters.

 

I'm not sure why you'd be upset or act immature.

Physics works 100% of the time.

I actually have a K&N intake in the truck right now. I'm asking what other people are doing and making my own first hand comparisons.

Thank you for the objective feedback.

 

The TRD intakes are similar to the Air Raids, AFE's, etc.

Sufficient is just it. That's all most manufactures do.

K&N provides a dyno sheet, which of course isn't rock solid. They are however pretty confident in their product.

If it didn't matter, higher flow filters, intakes, a replacement TRD or factory TRD filter wouldn't matter and neither would forced induction. Which we all know matters and a lot.

 

Let um remove that extra filter not sure where he lives but I hope it's somewhere with strict emissions policyies so he fails that smog test. Ask people opinion and you argue about it. Why even ask then.

 

Cause yea forced induction is exactly the same thing a smog filter

 

Asking what other people have done and trying things for yourself to get back to back comparisons at the same speeds over the same distance with the same load makes me sounds like an intake salesman? That's doesn't make any sense. Especially considering I'm seeing if any efficiency improvement will be made at all with the factory airbox using the factory provided TRD filter with less restriction.

I specifically stated forced induction mattered a lot. Not everything else. However, they do matter and they are not fluff. The more air you can get in and the more you can get out effects efficiently. The same way it does in a turbine.

Trying to twist a statement is silly.

 

Please show me where I stated that. Id be interested to see it.

If you don't think doing anything effects anything, then do nothing, and don't waste your time providing your contributions.

 

Lmfao I was about to say pretty much the same thing minus the warp drive hahaha

 

Wow just wow

 

I'll try to simplify it for you dude. If you got a flute and you blow to much air into it you get SHIT. The reason for that is MORE AIR THEN IT CAN HANDLE. To much of a good thing is bad thing ever heard that before.

 

I fail I would have to look most of that crap up

 

Increased airflow is not irrelevant.

Is being able to take in more air and use it while you're running irrelevant? The answer is, No. You can run harder, further, and longer then someone who isn't capable of using their lungs with the same efficiency as you.

He other "things" brought up are examples that people can relate to. This technique is common and should be recognized by a person if they have attended a day of school at any point in their life.

A factory air box with a factory TRD filter is not in anyway after market.

 

But what happens when you take on MORE than you can handle