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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by 4Wheelin4Banger, Jan 15, 2013.

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  1. Aug 9, 2015 at 3:55 PM
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    Ok so I was having an issue with my brake line (I think it's a brake line, maybe e-brake? Someone confirm) rubbing on the leaf pack clamps, so I installed a clamp to hold the line above the leaf pack.

    1. Has anybody else had this issue?
    2. Do you think this will hold up well?

    The clamp lets the line move freely around inside, just holds it above the leaf clamps.

    Before and after

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  2. Aug 10, 2015 at 12:39 AM
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    Agreed. Also for consideration, you can get Dakars with one or two overloads. Because I'm DCLB and going for an expedition build (read as: too much crap in or mounted over the bed) I went with the double overload configuration. Unloaded the truck is stiff in the rear but driveable (I like it anyways). I've hauled 1/2 a ton of crap a couple of times now and the truck rides really well, smooth and firm.

    @tyfoon11, If you find the double overload is a little too much for your needs you can always pull one out of the leaf pack.
     
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  3. Aug 10, 2015 at 7:16 AM
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    thanks for the responses guys. to clarify, the Dakars come with 2 overloads and you can remove as you need, or do you need to purchase the second overload separately (the
    $77 D29XL Leaf Spring
    D29XL maybe?)
     
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  4. Aug 10, 2015 at 7:53 AM
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    They come with the two overloads and the longer of the two can be removed.
    I actually did this a couple years back to improve up travel when off-roading. I noticed that when off-roading I'd run into the longer overload a bit too soon and as a result the upward flex was too stiff for me, I just don't carry enough weight to flex both overloads. With the longer overloads removed the packs flex significantly better and have more of a progressive type response when out on the trail.

    You can also remove the 3rd leaf to decrease the spring rate of these packs. This will improve the on road ride for those who don't carry weight, but you do lose a bit of lift (0.5-1"), about the same as removing the longer overloads.

    The 3rd option for these packs is the AAL insert (
    $77 D29XL Leaf Spring
    D29XL you mentioned). OME has a long AAL for these packs which increases the spring weight for those who carry some serious weight.
     
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  5. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:00 AM
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    You also lose approx. 15% of the weight handling capability, per Wheeler's.
     
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  6. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM
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    Removing an overload has no impact on the ride stiffness of the Dakar pack or the load handling characteristics of the regular leafs , you remove the 3rd for that
     
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  7. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:07 AM
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    13-15% or whatever it may be, but correct with the 3rd leaf removed weight handling capability is decreased hence the improved on road ride.
     
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    They sell the Dakars with either one or two. For example, I bought the HD kit (part #05TACOHK?) which was 886s and Dakars w/ two overloads. The "light kit" comes w/885s and Dakars w/ one overload.
     
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    What I said above, and this ^^^

    The Canadian knows his stuff.
     
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  10. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:15 AM
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    Yes.
     
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  11. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:18 AM
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    I'd argue against this as the first stage (first 5 leafs) does rest on the over loads quite a bit. I would say this has to do with the length of the longer overloads, with minimal uptravel they come into play and influence the packs response.

    Basically I did notice a slight improvement with the on road ride with them removed.
     
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  12. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:23 AM
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    So I would agree with this normally (overloads don't typically influence the ride and only support the packs under load), but personal experience tells me different.
     
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    hmmm... ok, I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel, thanks for the replies! another thing, there seems to be some difference in opinion on the + and - versions. is it true the + is for driver's side to correct lean?
     
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  14. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:29 AM
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    These symbols are there for the manufacturer.
    + = higher end of tolerance when tested
    - = lower end of tolerance when tested
    0 = spot on

    Per ARB the end user shouldn't notice a difference and the symbols should mean nothing to them. BUT because our trucks have more weight on the drivers side folks tend to put the + on that side providing they get one.
     
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    does that tolerance relate to stiffness/flex of the spring or what?
     
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    Oz....did you have some scarp rubber that you put on your dakar leafs to stop the squeak? Or is there a place where you can buy rubber strips?
     
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    Ultimately lift, but as tested likely spring rate.

    + = more lift
    - = less lift
    0 = in between + and -
     
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    Is there's better way to install them? I have read as long as you're + + or - - they're fine. But does it make a difference?
     
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    No , all Dakars come with 2 overloads
     
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  20. Aug 10, 2015 at 8:47 AM
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    Doesn't matter but if you get a mismatched set put the higher rate pack on the drivers side
     
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