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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by jmaack, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. Aug 19, 2015 at 7:32 AM
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    Play with this site:

    http://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-small-truck/specs/trims.html

    I'm not saying it's the word of god, but it doesn't look like you can get the Diesel on the WT trim. That's a GM site too. Time will tell but everything I have heard is that you need to get at least the LT (Colorado) or SLE (GMC) trim to get the Diesel and it has to be double cab short box.

    The difference in price between the WT and LT is $2K (3K up here). Add on the Diesel and nothing else, like the locker, rubber floor, or convince package most people will buy, and the truck is $35K. Add on the locker it's $36K. Add on the convenience package and it's 37K. All you are getting is a Diesel version of the SR5 at that point. So it's a lot of money for the upgrade if you wanted just an SR5 style truck, but it might be worth it to some.
     
  2. Aug 19, 2015 at 7:36 AM
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    That would make logical sense. I read where a 2WD Crew Cab diesel Colorado would start around $33K. Pretty impressive.
     
  3. Aug 19, 2015 at 7:39 AM
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    Again, check this site:

    http://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-small-truck/specs/trims.html

    It shows the 2WD DCSB LT starts at 27K and it shows the Diesel is an available option. If the Diesel is 3K there must be another option you have to get to get the Diesel that you will only find out about when you try to build one.

    Once you go 4WD there doesn't appear to be a way to build a truck with Diesel for less than 35K, and that truck is pretty basic TBH for that cost. It's easy to see how a Z71 with a few options will push 43K-44K. That being said, if you are willing to order and wait, the 35K diesel 4x4 is available.
     
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    The 2.8 duramax is only on LT and Z71 models
     
  5. Aug 19, 2015 at 7:50 AM
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    Some people refuse to believe it, even though it's that way right on the Chevrolet site...
     
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    Sure rather it be in the WT, I can live with it in the LT....only in the crew cab too...I prefer the extra cab....but I dunno, having a real back seat isn't a bad thing either.

    I am seeing the Colorado Diesel as a compromise between a Subaru and a Full Size truck. I want 30 mpg....would mean I need to buy a Subaru...problem with the Subaru (Outback or Forester) you run out of offroad capability and gear hauling ability real quick....so you need a 4WD truck, but the mileage sucks. The Collie Oil Burner might be the best of both worlds.

    I could buy the Suby as a DD and a F250 as the back woods explorer/camp vehicle... you're looking at spending at the very least $60K+....now the price of the Colorado doesn't seem too bad.
     
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    Or buy a new Subaru and a used 7.3 Ford Diesel. The 7.3 is bulletproof. Same sort of costs as the new "Collie" but far more capability for hauling a load. It looks like the Colorado only comes with 1600 lbs of payload in the lightest configuration. Maybe they'll beef up the rear end for the Diesel, but if not it'll be lower for the Diesel due to the weight of the engine and emissions equipment.

    The shitty thing is, much like the new Tacoma, there isn't a build wizard yet that shows the Diesel option. So there is no way to hammer down the exact cost and options package with the Diesel or the cost. We just have to go on GM;s word for now.

    I hope they keep the Urea tank in the back under the box. It may limit the suspension you can run and you may have to run the spare in the box if you need ground clearance but at least it won't be hanging low ready to be cut open like it is on the side of the 2500 HD.

    BTW I'm not knocking the Collie here. I'm just stating that the cheapest 4x4 Collie, if GM doesn't add extra options as mandatory which is GM's style, will be 35K and for that price there is no locker or convenience package. You'd probably not go for the convenience package but the locker you'd need. So your base price would be 36K minimum.
     
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    That tune won't hold up. In general, tuning a gas truck engine and then running it for towing or offroading generally is a bad idea. Plenty of blown engines at the local dealers over this and, like you said, no warranty support.

    If you really like to tune though you can list this as a plus for the truck. The GM computer is relatively wide open for tuning unlike a Toyota ECU.
     
  12. Aug 19, 2015 at 8:40 AM
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    We'll see. The LFX is a pretty stout engine. Its pretty much tried and true in the Camaro and Trifecta has a lot of experience tuning it.

    But as you say, I don't think voiding the warranty is a smart idea in a Chevy :p
     
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    I had a custom tune on my 07 Silverado, they knew it. My trans blew because 4L60E are a weak link in the drivetrain. The warrantied everything, even warrantied a driveshaft issue i had.

    Everyones so afraid to "void" the warranty, does no one know the magnuson/moss act?
     
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    So retarded isn't cool but gay is. Have you been living in SC too long :p.
     
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    Just FYI around here 10 years ago all the dealers sold tuning and tuning equipment because it raked them in cash, then when all the warranty work came in they stopped selling the junk and even started warning Diesel buyers that any tuning would void the warranty. I would never expect a company to warranty a tune and I know around here they laugh when people come crawling in after they've blown an engine with an out of the box tune. It's not hard to prove that a higher power output from the engine wrecks a powertrian part and remember, under the magnuson/moss act, you have to take the company to court if they deny your service which comes out of your time and pocket change.
     
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    i guess all the dealerships ive been do are far better than everyone else's?
     
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    Or your story is from 07 when most of these companies were more tuning friendly.

    I wouldn't be spreading advice saying tuning will fall under the factory warning if you go to certain dealerships. 99% of the time, the dealer will laugh in your face when something goes wrong because of some home cooking in the ECU. I'm from right in the middle of oil country in Canada. People here always want the POWAH for childish reasons. Blown engines stories are very common and no warranties were honored for the last 5ish years.
     
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    this was in 2013 before i sold it. It was an 07 model.

    I think people are far too afraid to modify their vehicle because "voiding the warranty". Most the times the user is over thinking and the dealership could give a shit less.
     
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    In order for the warranty to be voided, the mechanic has to prove your changes contributed to the failure. I would imagine a more powerful engine would contribute to a failed trans.

    Not sure the details of your experience but some dealers will warranty a car/truck that shouldn't be warrantied because they get paid by the manufacture. It's dishonest and I wouldn't want a dishonest dealer touching my truck.
     

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