Political Threads

...i understand you guys are the boss.... i do discuss such things on my forum... i was just expressing my take on the topic (i.e. which is relevant to this thread)... i am glad to hear that you see my point about the derogatory language/attacks/etc that has been quite pervasive, irregardless of topics...

 

Okay, I'm not that influenced by the news. In fact, I'm extremely distrustful of nearly anything presented by the media, press, or others. As a result, I've studied Obamacare carefully as it relates to me (costs, benefits, etc) and came to a conclusion based on that.

Anyway, lets start off by getting Medicare and Medicaid out of the way. I guess the most obvious would be to point out that those exact programs already provide comprehensive medical services (inpatient/outpatient care, doctor visits, lab tests, x-rays, nursing home & home health care, prescription drugs, family planning, preventative medicine, etc) for most of the people Obamacare purports to protect - the elderly, those with low or no income, those on public assistance, the disabled, those whose income is reduced by large medical expenses, and similar. In 2014, Obamacare will expand that to cover even more (all at or near the poverty line), obviously at an additional cost to taxpayers. In other words, your "sick people without coverage" are already quite well covered and have been for a very long time.

Few object to much of that. Instead, the primary objections (including mine) focus on the additional costs to taxpayers and the so-call individual mandate. I believe the former should be paid for by reduced federal spending, while the latter is far too costly for most, especially in a tight economy. The individual mandate requires individuals not covered by employer or government insurance to maintain their own coverage or pay a penalty (1% of income). Of course, the major downside to Obamacare is that it sets few limits on health care costs or no limits on insurance premiums. As a result, my insurance premiums, as an elderly person, will be quite substantial. Those increased Medicare and Medicaid costs (taxes) and insurance premiums was money we were planning to use for retirement (now delayed indefinitely). In the meantime, the insurance companies will get even richer from all the new policies & related monthly premiums.

Of course, that's not to say all are thrilled with paying to expand Medicare and Medicaid. Some people (myself included) feel those programs already cover all those it should protect (the truly needy) and should not be expanded to cover others. At the very least, the programs (like other assistance programs) should do far more to encourage people to work and provide for themselves (their own coverage, etc) instead of relying on public assistance (my taxes) forever.

Anyway, all of this is now perhaps moot following Thursday's Supreme Court ruling. The "four liberal justices agreed that the individual mandate should be upheld as part of Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce." I guess they didn't notice I'm a person, not interstate commerce. The costs of Obamacare (taxes, insurance premiums, possible fines, etc) are directed at me.

 

I quite enjoyed reading that, thanks.

 

Hahaha happy new year fuck sticks!

 

Happy New Year Potato humper!

 

didn't even know we was allowed to post on this thread

 

silence is the language of god,
all else is poor translation.
Rumi

 

Hit any trees lately ?

 

*logs

 

Moose*

 

*Humuhumunukunukuāpuaʻa

 

LOL I remember having to spell that in school.

 

Luke 19:40New International Version
40 “I tell you,” he replied, “if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.

 

I skipped to the back to ask how @tcBob is polling for president of the US

 

As mentioned, the #1 "banned for talking about" internet site subject is politics. A close #2 would be people arguing about their alleged right to discuss the banned political topics. While many (including me at times) LOVE to get into the occasional political pissing contests, they'll ruin a website in a heartbeat. Why would ANYONE here want to do something to ruin what is a FANTASTIC place to hang out......Hmmmmm..... I wish I'd have thought of it this way BEFORE I said "I do"....Oh well....That one is on me....I HAD to ask.....

 

There are plenty of political based forums out there for everyone who wants to bathe in the diarhea that is today's politics. Phuckin take it there..............

 

That's from the book of BoB

 

http://m.humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/6/1/5.extract

 

The only thing worse than politicians...

Are the people who vote for them.