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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by B Wess08, Sep 8, 2015.

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  1. Sep 8, 2015 at 1:55 PM
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    Hey there TW.. I'm somewhat a newbie at suspension, so I am going with a mid-travel set up, KING 2.5s all around. Here is my first question... I am having some funding issues, is it possible to run the KING 2.5 coilovers w/remote res. with the stock UCA and LCA? And can I also run the rear 2.5s w/remote res. in the rear? in the time being while i save up for my UCAs and rear leaf springs?? Thanks so much, any info is greatly appreciated. -Brad
     
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  2. Sep 8, 2015 at 2:16 PM
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  3. Sep 8, 2015 at 2:26 PM
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    You won't get nearly as much out of the Kings as with the right control arms, and will have less lift and travel.

    You'll probably also eat up the stock ball joints more quickly.
     
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    will it be ok for a month or so? this will just be city driving during this time.. no off roading whatsoever
     
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    I don't even think you can clear the stock control arms with that CO? I'd say it's going to rub pretty bad.
     
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    That's a good point, droop will be limited by UCA contact with the springs. A few months won't matter to the Ball Joints.

    Easy to measure for fit to see how it will go together. Or find someone with a build who has them and ask for an OD measurement.

    Alternatively, get the UCAs first and the shocks next month.

    AE
     
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  7. Sep 8, 2015 at 5:46 PM
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    Yes, as long as you do not purchase the extended travel kings. The only difference between the extended travel and non-extended travel is the extended travel shocks have the shaft spacer removed. Paired with an aftermarket UCA such as TC, Camburg, etc., it allows for more droop travel. For standard travel and stock UCA/LCA's, order the one's with the spacer.
    For the future, you can purchase aftermarket UCA's (as funds allow) and then remove the shaft spacer from the shock to allow for the full potential of your new UCA.

    Wrong. Lift is an artifact of preload. Travel...only droop travel if affected and only if paired with the extended travel shocks and aftermarket UCA's. Doesn't mean he still can't use factory UCA's/LCA's and keep the shaft spacer in.

    Wrong. What's it going to rub? No different than any other coilover (King, ADS, Fox, Sway-away, ICON, Toytec, etc). Again...only matters if he purchases the extended travel shocks, in which case he would need aftermarket UCAs.

    Once again...wrong! OP just needs to purchase non-extended travel coilovers.
     
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    The front = No
    The rear will be fine unless you get extended travel or something
     
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  9. Sep 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM
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    Jesus Christ. WTF is wrong with TW lately. Just pure misinformation. 2.5 coilovers work absolutely fine without aftermarket UCA's!
    As long as the coilover is not the extended travel. It's the whole fucking reason they sell two different kits. Granted you may not like the caster once you get an alignment, but that is completely dependent on how much preload you add.
     
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    But your basically wasting your money IMO if you don't get extended travel....

    Op why not just do the front then save for the rear?
     
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    @jberry813 entirly possible I'm wrong here, but, something has to limit downtravel, either the UCA hitting the coil due to diameter, the ball joints hitting the limit of their range of motion, or the coil over hitting the limit of downstroke.

    Either of the first two would be a problem, no?

    AE
     
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    He said mid-travel you fucking moron so they're definitely extended travel. Get off your high horse. :smack:
     
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  13. Sep 8, 2015 at 6:03 PM
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    Some people need to learn how to read. :facepalm:
     
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    Please explain how he's "wasting money"? The only difference is the shaft spacer which allows for more droop travel. Literally there is nothing different from a dimension perspective. OP said he doesn't have the funds for both so:

    1) Buy Kings now and pull bro-hoes and mob desert
    2) Acquire new funds
    3) Buy UCAs
    4) Install new UCA's and remove the shaft spacer from the coilover (15 minute job per coilover)
    5) Mob more desert and pull more bitches


    It's not a big effing mystery. The shock limits downtravel...just like it does with a FACTORY coilover. Every single truck I've seen where there was contact issues with spindle or UCA to the coil, the truck either had a top plate spacer or purchased extended travel shocks with factory UCAs. I've seen ONE situation where there was no extended travel shock and no top plate spacer where there was spindle contact. And that was due to a seriously fucked alignment. Before the guy went off to get his alignment I rotated the coil by hand so at droop the spindle didn't contact anything but gap in between the coil.

    Seriously...we're not curing cancer here. There's a reason Fox, King, etc all sell two versions of their coilovers. One with aftermarket UCA's...one without (one without a shaft spacer...and one with).

    And mid-travel is nothing more than TW nomenclature...you fucking cum guzzler. The guy asked if there was a way to do it...and I gave him a solution.
     
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    It will rub the control arm, dipshit. Pull the cock out of your ass. Your vagina is showing.

    They are extended travel Kings. Dumbass. :rolleyes:
     
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    And you are missing the point. I gave him a way to buy NON-extended travel coilovers now...and how to turn them into extended travel later.
    So it fits into your "mid travel" definition.
     
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    He's not getting new upper and lower control arms to run stock travel coilovers. Fuckin idiot.
     
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    What is your deal man? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Or are you just 16 years old and think you're a god
    I gave him an alternative of how he can do it in the future as funds permit. More than you've done.
     
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    You came in here calling everybody a dumbass because YOU didn't comprehend the question and I'm the one with the problem?? Lol
     
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