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Discussion in 'Stocks & Investments' started by cabarbhab, Jan 9, 2011.

  1. Sep 9, 2015 at 11:48 PM
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    I'm pretty sure Steve is the troll. I posted HIS coin chart and he says, no that's the ETFs when the chart clearly says American Silver Eagle coins priced at $18.26 when the ETF closed at $13.93

    Man I hate it when the facts cloud a great conspiracy theory!
     
  2. Sep 9, 2015 at 11:49 PM
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    but you watch ESPN for sports.... and wsj hates PMs...
     
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    Except for in all my reading gold is expected to fall a bit more.... So that ratio might self correct there. Also, silver historically flies all over that ratio, so depending on its average is not a great idea unless you are into your silver for the long haul.

    Again not trolling you. An active discussion is a good discussion. If this was just a silver stroke off I would never of stuck around.
     
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    OH NO! I need to add shipping and storage costs?!? Then shipping back to sell adding to the trade expense? DUH! And it's still falling in price jackass.
     
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    ESPN makes their money from advertising everything but sports lol. Those silver sites make money from... Guess what... Selling silver. Hence the comparison is not accurate.
     
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    post the web site price.....

    This is the PMs thread and all you do is talk shit making you the TROLL
    I'll post it for you


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  7. Sep 9, 2015 at 11:53 PM
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    No they are promoting sports that is their job and they give you sports news , about as biased as it gets...
     
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    Not sure what this has to do with anything...

    Alright, bedtime, this thing has gone full retard tonight.
     
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    Dude stop talking like you have a business degree or understand economics, this in neither the time nor place for such sense!
     
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    You missed my point completely. ESPN makes nothing off sports. They make everything off the ads between the sports. Those websites only make money if they sell more silver. That's the problem with you over simplified analogy.
     
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    This is a silver eagle
     
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    They make all their money from promoting sports. and the ads are about sports.....

    Really a paid distraction and it works........
     
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    From Silver Coin Investor.com

    Why People Buy The US Eagles Despite The Premium
    These coins are in high demand because they are .999 pure, fine silver, and they come stamped with the government’s seal. This makes the US silver eagle safe in the minds of people who worry about the possibility (or inevitability) of bartering or simply verification of authenticity.

    Not only will they hold their value and rise along with all forms of silver, but they have a history of hanging on to their value because they are a trusted coin. They come straight from the government, and they have been around for a long time. Again, this trust in the Silver Eagle can be helpful if you ever have to use one of these silver dollars as currency someday.

    U.S. Silver Eagles can easily be melted down in the event that you want to sell the silver. They can be added to other silver to make silver bars, or they can be used as they are to buy what you need in the event of an economic emergency. That makes them a very liquid investment that can be kept, spent or melted, depending on exactly what you need your silver to do for you.

    Our feeling is that because of the higher premiums, silver eagles are unnecessary and generic silver rounds - which are universally stamped .999 and one ounce are a better way to get on board.
     
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    Those are sell prices.

    Good luck getting those buy prices without using eBay or some other method where you could end up bum raped in the transaction.

    Again, that's something that really limits silvers use to me for investing. The cheap coins with small basis are hard to unload but easy to make your money back. The good coins are easy to unload but crummy to make money on because of the large difference between the high new buy price and the much lower resale price to easy safe buyers.
     
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    so any way the trolls are't leaving.....

    So next lesson is the silver to gold ratio..... I know trolls, that doesn't make a difference
    but for the rest of us.....

    SO historically the silver to gold ratio has been around 15-1 depending on supply......
    so if gold was $100 dollars silver would be $15.... today it's at 75-1 but it comes out of the ground at 9-1 and there is no surplus of either...

    so 1100 / 9 = 122 if it were free market priced...... after production the net silver and gold for investment is the ratio is 3-1 = 366

    and total inventory for silver is 31-46 tons and 200,000 tons of gold so there is 4347 oz of gold for every 1 oz of silver on earth....

    and set the trolls free.......
     
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    No they are not... If you honestly think any station makes money with anything but ads you are wrong. Yes, the better the content the more they get per ad, but that doesn't bias them towards anything but providing good content.

    Silver sites need to sell silver, and that's a far different bias.
     
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    So next lesson is the silver to gold ratio..... I know trolls, that doesn't make a difference
    but for the rest of us.....

    SO historically the silver to gold ratio has been around 15-1 depending on supply......
    so if gold was $100 dollars silver would be $15.... today it's at 75-1 but it comes out of the ground at 9-1 and there is no surplus of either...

    so 1100 / 9 = 122 if it were free market priced...... after production the net silver and gold for investment is the ratio is 3-1 = 366

    and total inventory for silver is 31-46 tons and 200,000 tons of gold so there is 4347 oz of gold for every 1 oz of silver on earth....
     
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    The difference is ESPN isn't trying to sell me their stock by writing an article about Tom Brady's deflated balls :rolleyes:
     
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    Exactly.

    Btw the ratio/stockpile estimates are off because you accept all the gold in the vaults around the world but not the silver.

    Seems silly to me. Even your silver sites show a near zero net change in silver stocks over the last decade , but of course they don't bold that number because it won't sell them more silver.
     

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