Injet Intake-ruin engine?

Hi all-

I recently purchased a 2013 Tacoma Access Cab, 4x4 with the 2.7 cylinder. At first I was concerned about the lack of torque, because I do pull a 16 ft aluminum boat and a flat bed trailer with one atv on it from time to time, but then I read Tooter's posts about increasing the Torque by 30 ft lbs and reducing the peak by almost 1000 rpms. After thinking about it, I realized I don't need to get the V6, but would like the extra 30lbs of torque that Tooter's mods have made.
However, I have some questions and wondered if the Tacoma community could weigh in:

1. I'm concerned with installing the Injet Long Tube Intake due to all of the controversy surrounding adding CAIs to trucks (see here) does anyone have conclusive advice about how the increased silica entering the engine will affect longevity? I may skip this mod because of this.

2. If I do NOT add the Injet Intake could I STILL add the Flowmaster Series 50 Delta Flow muffler? Do I need to increase the intake in order to take advantage of the new muffler?

3. Has anyone else done this and can you feel (from the seat of your pants) a difference in driveability? Again, my goal is to just have a bit lower torque peak and more torque so I don't have to downshift quite as much going through the mtns of Vermont.

4. Suspension: anyone notice an onroad difference in comfort with the Bilstein 5100s? I mostly drive onroad, with light offroading (deer hunting).

I really like this truck quite a bit and thanks for the replies!

-Matthew

 

Nothing you bolt on will add power. end of story.
You may add noise and risk engine harm with aftermarket intakes but you wont add power.
Your ecu is tuned for specific fuel air mix and when you mess with that you lose.

 

Aren't "definitely" and "yes, for sure" the same?

 

So is Tooter full of ?

Seems to have some dyno data to back up his claim. Just sayin'....

 

His baseline isn't accurate, he compares stock pre-runner data to his modified 5-lug. There is significant difference in dynoing just by size and weight of tires so take with grain of salt. He won't agree, but I've shown him dyno runs that changed by 10+ hp/tq with different tire/wheel weight. Only way for him to verify is back to stock.

 

Hi all- Thanks for the responses. I only realized now that "definitely" and "yes, for sure" were the same now--when I was posting this, my kids were distracting me. Regarding Tooter's build, I had read about the impact of tires on increasing HP and it seems logical that this would impact Dyno results. On the other hand, even if the tires accounted for 10 hp, there's still 20 HP unaccounted for--seems like the bolt ons might play a part here.

In the end, perhaps I should just get the muffler--it'll make a bit more noise and the butt dyno will feel the difference.

I drove a V6 today and yes, significant power increase--I could spin the tires quite easily. HOWEVER, I was actually looking forward to getting back into my 5 spd manual--it was more fun to drive. There's a bit of a lag with the V6 auto transmission that I don't have with the manual.

I may get a bigger engine eventually, but perhaps in a Silverado or something. Until then, I am really enjoying this truck.

Looking forward to winter to test out the 4 wheel drive. Anyone put sand in the back? If so, how much?

 

The header probably have some gains at lower rpm, I doubt the muffler alone is gonna change much.

 

IMS will definietly shift the toruqe and hp curves and change them. I have the 1/2in XTP intake manifold spacer and the mid range increase is noticeable for sure

 

^This. I also have the XTP IMS for my v6 and it does change the engine peak values.

 

Unfortunately, I don't think you can get one of these for the 2.7.

 

thats why you go the tooter route.

 

http://www.lceperformance.com/Street-Header-Kit-2005-2014-2TR-2-7-Liter-Tacoma-p/1041055.htm

Wasn't Tooter making a spacer at one time?

Here is a dyno of three headers. ^^^

If you have questions about the 2TR headers, call someone reliable like LCE.

 

about your first question

All versions and flavors of silica, silicon, silicates...etc...are harder than any metal component in your engine.

when any silica from 'earth dust' hits anything metal in your engine, silica wins.

what do you think will occur if you 'increase' the particulate amount that can enter the air intake ? increased wear.

how much, depends on all the other factors.

but everything equal, you want the best filtration possible

 

127-
I have read that the dry AEM paper cone filters work as well as OEM filters-any experience/knowledge of this?

 

You have a MAF sensor, so don't use an oiled filter.

 

That's why they make the 6spd manual!

 

Unfortunately-the gas mileage is abysmal on that model.

 

I have no idea

I use OEM because millions are spent designing the vehicle, and parts, and staying with OEM is pretty much
a guarantee it will 'function as designed' why would I want to get 'fucky' with trucky ?

 

I can attest to the LCE header. I installed one last weekend and I am loving it, the truck drives so much better. I had some power loss because I put 285 tires on it but now it feels stock again. On the highway I can keep it in 5th gear without having to downshift to 4th on slight inclines. The header is worth it, and actually kind of fun to install.

edit: I don't believe it actually adds 40 ft lbs at the wheels as their dyno results show on the LCE website. I do think it moved peak torque down though and maybe added a few usable ft lbs. The header won't blow you away but it'll feel much better than before.

 

Stick with stock paper.

http://www.dieselbombers.com/chevro...rticles/16611-duramax-air-filter-testing.html