Tire Balance Issues, Need some help

Sooo....are those beads metal, plastic, platinum?????

 

@Crom posted about this in another thread. Been looking at this option myself.

 

They were glass beads actually... At least thats what he told me they were. They were clear

 

Ahh glass hu? Interesting. As long as they don't create any wear inside the tire I think those things are a pretty good idea! Especially if they really do level out your bouncy tire ride!

And tiny too hu? The large ones 1/4 the size of a BB, pretty small...

 

They proved successful to me. There about the size of blasting media for a sand blaster

 

Yup. I got almost 200 miles with my beads and 33's and still doing great! Glad to see OP found a solution.

After reading the OP, I do think that the tire shop did it wrong and should have indexed the valve stems to the red dot.

The rule as I know it is use the red dot Indexed to the valves stem. if there's no red dot, then use the yellow dot. It helps when balancing the tires.

 

I would think they wouldn't move once you are up at speed. Im curious, can you hear a pitter patter of them falling to the bottom of the wheel when you stop? It sounds good, but seems like a stop gap measure, using a movable weight to make up for a off center wheel or tire doest sit right with me. But maybe im just being anal with these beads.

 

I'm curious about this as well. I to would think they'd all get stuck in one area at speed. It kinda bogles my mind how they go to the right areas to smooth out the imbalance.

 

From Dyna Beads (one of the large manufacturers of balance beads)

A: Yes. Due to a small static charge built up between the bead and rubber interaction, a few may remain attached to the tire circumference, but only a very small amount. The rest fall to the bottom and re-position themselves when the tire starts rolling again.

FAQ - http://www.innovativebalancing.com/news.htm

 

On my truck i have the ceramic type beads, can't hear them over regular truck noise when stopping But when I take the wheel off the truck and roll around by hand I can hear them it's a woosh or shhhhh sound. I did the beads because I got tired of losing wheel weights in the rocks.

 

I dont think anything will fix an offset or off center wheel... Dont care how many weights you install that kind of bounce will never go away at any speed. As far as pitter patter there is non. Now i dont know about the plastic beads tho. Also the beads are very smooth and if you were to try and take a handful and squeeze them they would just fall out due to there slipperyness.

Not sure how to process that last sentence tho of your Lmao!!!

 

Haha I didn't catch that the first time! Lol

 

We ran with EQUAL in our Jeep (35's). http://www.imiproducts.com/products/equal/
It's not a bead...but like granulated, more like a fine sand.
Worked great!! Obviously, we didn't have TPMS.....
We had automatic tire deflators for offroading. We may have lost just a few ganuals when airing down - but that was it. Never had to add anymore and it ran on the highway 70mph just fine. We had that same stuff in the tires for years.

 

I'm glad the balance bead idea worked for ya!

 

So how come these balancing beads aren't standard when balancing a tire these days if they work so well?? Seems like tire weights are kinda...well, just not the best route if the beads work so well and for the entire life of the tire!

 

They are a specialty item. For larger oversized tires, good on motorcycles too. But not good for cars, minivans with low profile tires.

Go read up on innovative balancing website. They have a nice FAQ for you.

And how about this to blow your mind. Antifreeze. You can use anti freeze to balance tires. farmers use it all the time and their big ass tires.

https://youtu.be/94-CdexJ3Xk

 

I've had problems with tires since day one. Tried goodyears and BFG, they both shake. Tried road force balancing, lug adapter on the machine, none of it really helped. I ignore it now. Usually if you maintain the same speed on the interstate long enough it'll smooth out. If you change speeds it starts to vibrate again. After a few minutes of the same speed it balances out again. I blame the lug centric nature of Toyota hub setups.

 

Toyota is hub-centric, not lug-centric. more rubber equals more chance for a possible anomaly in any tire

 

I've always been told they were lug centric. Meaning the wheel isn't centered by the center part of the wheel, but rather by the lug nuts themselves.