2016 Frames vs General Motors

Has Toyota gotten their act together with their frame builds?

I was at the The Eastern States Exposition (West Springfield MA) yesterday & looked over the Chevy truck display.

As much as I wanted to hate the Government Motors product, they looked pretty good.

I took a close look at the suspension & frame. When I ran my fingernail across the frame I scraped off a black wax film. It seems GM dips/sprays their frames!

Why can't Toyota get their act together or have they?

For the few dollars cost per vehicle, it would save them in the future.

 

Toyota sucks

 

All Tacoma frames come from the same place, I just got mine replaced and brand new frame has raw steel visible because Toyota missed with paint. In essence if you are in New England, either keep truck in constant oil bath and kill environment, or expect truck to last 6-9 years and than become salvage.

 

Excellent idea with the oil bath....but some oils are biodegradable and completely non toxic to animals and do not pollute wells and ground water. That's what we use . Another great product is boiled linseed oil. Clear or with pigment if you like the look.....also biodegrable. There are alternatives my good man

 

Let me also comment on the 6-9 year time frame. That is exactly right for all trucks. A friend just showed me his 8 year old GM Dramax 3/4 which cost over $45 k new 8 years ago. Frame is rusted badly, fenders rotted, rear bed supports are gone Rockers were fix to pass this year's inspection, bottom of doors fixed two years ago and front fender liners completely rusted and flapping in the wind. It isn't just a Toyota problem in heavily salted areas, His truck with that great motor and just $120 k is worth zilch.

Maybe, an aluminum ford with just the frame to keep after...and the mechanics....

 

I'm talking about 2016

What a manufactures doing now going forward?

 

The only safe oil is one you can eat.if you can not consume it than its not safe.
So that would be peanut oil, sunflower oil, olive oil. Anything else poison and a reason why most our lakes and rivers have not eatable fish.
I am pretty sure some of the states already have laws against that.

 

They don't.
Dana does not exists anymore, it's Metalsa now.
And you can see a picture of brand new frame I got from them I posted.myou can see raw metal.

 

Same shit as always they just powder coat them. It's not actually liquid paint they bake the powder coat on it. It does not stick good to welds. The only thing they can do do is por 15 them and they are a Business they don't want cars or trucks to last 20 years about 10 years is how long they want because everybody almost need a car. If a car would last forever they would be out of business

 

If that's the case that GM has them beat in the frame department!

 

All frames are going to rust it's steel what does steel do it rust. Rusting is inevitable

 

My friend has a 2013 Silverado and the frame is already rusting

 

I put oil and wd 40 on my frame before winter starts

 

Oh Please! Bury your head in the sand much?

My 03 Xterra is still clean & free of rust except the ears on the rear frame where the body shop repaired the frame from a collision.

 

Depends on where you live

 

Is it a unibody frame never heard of that car.

 

Oh suv

 

Northeast US

Planning make a world of difference in the the longevity!

 

I find that hard to believe if it's a frame built

 

You work in the auto industry and you've never heard of the Nissan Xterra?