This truck is going to bury the GM twins.

Oh, maybe I am lost! lol.

 

BTW, It has nothing to do with where the truck was made. GMC and Ford are American companies, that's the bottom line. Of course they have outsourced.

 

Toyota is an American truck though. Actually, GM is about the worst of the big three for building trucks in Mexico considering most of the Silverados are built there.

The whole Toyota is Japanese thing is overblown. So what? Buying a GM Mexico truck lines the pockets of management types in Detroit. Buying a Toyota or a Ford truck does more to line the pocket of the average American worker.

 

Congrats on the new truck. While I wouldn't buy one, that doesn't mean it's not a good truck

 

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/top-10/top-10-most-american-trucks-for-2015.html

 

Somebody better tell Obama he bailed out a Mexican company. uh oh.

 

The butthurt, I sense it .

In all seriousness GM isn't isn't an American company anymore. It's a global company that has chosen to out source more of it's parts and manufacturing to Mexico than Ford or Toyota. If you don't care about that then don't care, but don't try to preach buying GM is good for the American worker or an American thing to do.

 

F150 all the way for American truck.

Funny thing is though that the 5.0 L is made in Canada

 

First off, I am not some guy that cares about owing an American brand car. I'm just sayin'

But you are delusional if you think Toyota is as American as GM. Of course GM has an international presence, it's 2015...you can't compete without an international presence. That doesn't' change that fact that they are headquartered in Detroit, MI USA and were founded in the USA, and were instrumental in shaping the USA auto industry (for better or worse) for over a century now.

 

3,700 people work at the Kansas City assembly plant for Ford (F150). 6,000 people work at the Dearborn Assembly plant in Detroit (F150). All four of the Ford "truck" engines are made in either in the USA or Canada.

That's 10,000 people who work for Ford building trucks in the USA that GM does not employ. I take a personal beef with that. At least Toyota IS employing people to build some of their trucks in the USA. GM only builds the Colorado in the USA now.

Who gives a shit what GM did yesterday. I care about what GM is doing now. Which isn't good truck wise. I'm sorry if that hurts your anus, but when you buy GM you are promoting their business practices which suck.

 

Oh, and another knock on GM, when they move production they don't even try to keep the old plant running doing something else. They just shut that bitch down. Right now Ford is talking about moving Focus production to Mexico. Instead of outright announcing the closing of the USA plant that makes the Focus they are negotiating a deal to build either the Transit, Ranger, and/or another vehicle at that plant to keep those people employed.

Watch, within 10 years the Colorado will be built only in Mexico.

 

Government Motors has sold out and so has the quality. Toyota has moved alot of work here for Americans.
The upper management in unions have destroyed what was once good

 

I'm just saying they are an American company, there's no disputing that...it is what it is. They're Corporation filing, bi-laws, etc. are all American. Dn't get bent out of shape.

Again, I don't give a shit one way or the other...I have a Toyota...it's great. But a fact is a fact.

 

I've seen what GM does with the money hard working Canadians paid them. They took their bailout and closed most of their offices, manufacturing, and support offices in Canada all within a few years. Ford took out a small taxpayer loan and in exchange they've increased the amount of work being done in Canada. It's not hard to see the difference in philosophy. GM sold out to the almighty dollar a long time ago. The company is a public cash grab.

 

Best car I have ever owned is a 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS. Best driving car I have ever been in, for long or short trips. Never had an issue, and has been driven all over the Eastern US. You are more than welcome to your opinion, but mine is different. 2010-2015 were made in Canada, the new 2016 Camaros will be made in Detroit along with the Cadillac's.

 

If anything the quality as gone up in recent years.

 

Well when you start with dashboards that fall apart and airbags that don't go off it's not hard to improve

In all honesty the new GM Diesel Colorado is a total unknown. The truck wasn't great for reliability in it's first year and that Diesel is making it's debut over here with a whole new tune and emissions system. I wouldn't buy one for those reasons. My own personal dislike of GM could be easily overcome if the truck were to prove itself reliable over the next few years. I'm not ready to go singing on the fence over some numbers on a piece of paper that tell me this truck might be better than the Tacoma. The real world will determine that. After all, if paper was all that mattered, I would of bought a Ram Ecodiesel which is a POS.

 

I hear ya...the Colorado is all new, etc. and the Taco's always been a warrior. But let's face it, if GM's truck reliability sucked that bad they'd be out of business. The Silverado, Tahoe and Suburban have been selling like wild fire for 30+ years. And you definitely see 20 year old ones still on the road.

 

My family was all GM. They lost all of our business over bad Silverados and Tahoes (with a few Sierras and Yukons mixed in). We kept having issues that left my mom and dad stranded with us as kids on the side of the road with our GM's. I personally had a GMC Sierra and an Alero next as my first two vehicles. The second Yukon my parents owned had a phantom power draw GM could never find. My dads Silverado 1500 blew a tranny and then the trade in 1500HD blew it's tranny. My Sierra killed it's engine (which was funny cause it still sort of ran with two cylinders down), transmission, front end, and transfer case within a period of a year. My Alero killed it's starter at 50K when I was out of town at school leaving me stranded until my dad came and helped me out. I could go on and on but you get the picture.

A lot of my family out in eastern Ontario and Quebec works for GM or GM dealers so it took a big step for my parents to get off the GM trade in treadmill. Know how many Ford F150's, Explorers, Rangers, Edges, Focuses, and Escapes have gone bad between my parents, me, and my brother? None. That's why we are done with GM. Switched brands in the mid 2000's and the problems disappeared. I'm sure eventually we will get a lemon from Ford, but given how well the local dealer has treated us and the business I work at I have no fears that they will set it right.

 

GM definitely churned out some garbage in the 80s/90s, but so did all the domestic brands. Truedelta is a great site for real-world reliability data; it re-affirms some brand stereotypes, but there is much more overall improvement with all brands vs. time than between any two given brands in a given era.

For instance, even "unreliable" brands (Fiat or Mini, for instance) are more reliable today than say the Camry was 15 years ago.