Long Travel BS Thread

LOL, in the last week I've heard 3 different people say the rear should be narrower then the front and when I asked why they all said cause they read it somewhere. I'm still trying to find out why.

Personally, I've driven my old toyota with a 7" wider then stock front then the rear axle and then swapped in a matching rear. Couldn't tell a difference. The race truck, I've driven it with the front to rear width difference at 3 different widths as we've had 3 different housings in there from stock to matching width now. Again, no difference in feeling or handling. Well, there was some difference but it was in the shock valving cause I relocated the shocks during one of the changes too. I currently daily drive a ford exploder that's probably 6" wider up front and well, it handles fine. I'm halfways tempted to check the track width of this 2015 mustang that's sitting right next to my desk here at work and see if the factory agrees with this rear should be narrower then the front.

I'm just curious what the "theory" behind this is cause so far I've heard it as truth but nobody has had even an explanation of why. And whether I agree or not, I'm just curious...

 

When I raced quads we would adjust the rear width to determine how much the rear would hook or slide in a corner. The narrower the rear the more it would want to hook up in a corner and the wider would slide more. I am not sure if it is a principle that translates into this world but interested. I don't see many of us sliding into berms and such.

 

Slightly off topic but would you mind sharing info about the MCM kit and your rear axle? How far over per side is the kit? Also what is the WMS on that sweet Camburg axle? I look to the TPF truck as inspiration for my build since it seems to work pretty well.

 

Trucks gone forever. Don't think the coulovers came off unles he swapped in something to keep supported...

 

i think he left the coils, he told me he has the front and rear bypasses, said once insurance clears hell have them for sale

 

Bypasses came off and that's it. Rest of truck is sittin in a salvage yard waiting for someone to swoop up all those parts!!! I wanted him to find out where it went cuz I would go buy parts off it!!! Hit him up, he may still have those.

 

The hell happened to his rig?

 

poor taco i wanna know his price on the front bypasses, its either those or wait till black friday to buy some, just bought 12" triples for my truck today..

 

bent frame from a tie rod snapping is what he said on insta, dont quote me on that though

 

A tie rid snapped and that bent the frame??

 

i guess.. picture of his truck on the back of a flatbed and in the comments he said "tie rod broke, bent the frame beyond repair" . pretty gnarly to bend the frame from a tie rod

 

If you look up salvage auctions you might be able to fine it. Just get a vin.

 

I'm shooting you a pm... Honestly, off top of my head. I don't know/remember. LOL

And yeah, I'm a bit biased but I think it works pretty damn good for what it is! Funny cause my benchmark has always been Helton's old truck!

 

Interesting... I'm not doubting you one bit as I'm sure it's very noticeable in feel and seat of the pants being a quad and the control/input you deal with from your body yourself. I'm trying to picture though why narrow would allow for more hookup and wider would allow more slide. Obviously width would allow for more stability but as for traction I'm not picturing how it would be affected? I could see width affecting pressure to the outside tire being more or less but that's about all I'm able to creatively conceive.

I'm not even trying to start an argument as there may be truth behind it... I'm truly asking if someone has a legit reasoning for this cause like I've said, I've heard it now a few times this week by pure chance. On a truck with the weights and dynamics involved I'm having a hard time believing that you could tell a difference seat of the pants on having a rear that's a couple inches narrower then the front. I'm sure with sensors and computer testing stuff it's there but real world, think you really could notice a difference? I haven't but then again I've never really paid attention to that aspect directly...

 

I don't know if it matters between 1st and 2nd gen. But I'm have problems lining up the blot holes on TC coil bucket gussets. Did anyone else have this issue? Did you have to drill out the bolt hole a little bit to help with alignment? It just seams like the angle of the hole doesn't let the back (closer to engine side) sit flush with the tower bucket.

 

Agreed man here's a link to the build on DR

http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/dr-rides/154262.htm

 

I take out the outer set of washers on the UCA? Mine didn't fit the greatest, the bottom corner had a pretty big gap, I left it open and welded the whole straight portion

 

thanks for taking the half hour of my evening for me to read each page of that lol

 

Anyone have any suggestions for bump steer on a camburg race kit? Yes i have a stock rack but I just swapped in a new one cause the old one was shot. Didn't change the bump steer to much. What else can i do?