Rust?

I'm looking to downsize from my '07 Tundra and really like the looks of the new Tacoma, BUT...
the reason I have the '07 Tundra is that my '02 Tundra's rear axle rusted out (dealer told me they could replace the frame under warranty, but not the axle), and now the '07's bed is rusted through in several places. Before that, my pre-Previa 4wd van died because part of the cooling system suffered catastrophic rust failure. I do live in an area where they use a lot of road salt. So the question is this: Can I trust that Toyota has finally figured out that rust prevention is important, or should I skip the new Tacoma and buy a Chevy?

 

buy the chevy, no guarantee they fixed the rust issue until 5 years from now or so.

 

Is Toyota outsourcing frames on the trucks from China??? I was looking at a FJ Cruiser the other day before I bought the new Taco and the frame was just silly looking, the chassis was fine but the frame had rust on ALL the welding seams and random holes thru the frame. Needless to say I passed on that one.... hopeful they figured this issue out, the FJC was a 2011.

 

Welcome Charlie, not sure if Toyota fixed the rust issues with the 3GEN 16.
Best bet is to treat before the salt hits.
The 2GENs are going through the same thing the 1GENs did except
now no buy back crusher, its either frame or gooey treatment.
I undercoated mine before the 1st winter & do touch ups.
Time will tell....
The bed won't rust if that is any consolation

 

There is no reason to believe they have, since they didn't seem to learn their lesson between the first gens and second gen rust fiascos, in which I can't even imagine how much money they lost and perhaps will lose again.

Only time will tell. Until then, Fluid Film...

 

For the Taco and Tundra, the frames are made by Dana in Mexico. The FJ Cruiser and 4Runner are built in Japan, so I doubt their frames are made by Dana. The frame on my '03 4Runner had to be replaced due to rust as well. I don't know whether Toyota has solved their rust issues yet or not.

 

Until proven otherwise, Toyota = Rust 4 Life.

 

Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Toyota. Doesn't matter what brand they all rot out if you don't treat them. We had just as many Rangers in with rotted frames as the Tacomas when they were being bought back.

And Toyota didn't change manufacturing procedures until 09 when the Tacoma buy back program started. Up until then they ignored the problem. Not saying the new ones don't look the same after a few years though

 

No, you can't trust an car company to do anything more then keep rust perforation from breaking through metal before time period mandated by our lowly central govt.

But, you can protect it yourself by giving up 45minutes of your free time for each car once a year. No one uses more salt then our area and many of us keep our cars rust free for more then a decade.....or two. I have talked about it extensively on other threads and only a few seem interested.....but it works....if you are interested, just ask.

 

I wouldnt count on it. I was always under washing, brushing, painting the frame on my 06. Sold it... rusted away

 

I'd love to hear about successful treatment measures, but judging from my own experience with other vehicles (Subaru, Ford, Chevy) Toyota is particularly susceptible to significant rust damage.

 

Rust tends to start at the welds because any rust prevention they do, including galvanizing or additives is evaporated away during the welding process and becomes prone to rust.

Water it's an electrolyte, salt water is a better electrolyte. Electrolytes makes the rust process more apt to occur. Oil is an insulator as is grease(that's why we put it on battery terminals) each of which inhibit Corosion.

If a car owner is a lazy motherf'r ( sorry to be blunt) or unknowing and wants a one time cover up treatment or is unwilling to apply insulates yearly to rust areas, his car will rust in areas where water and salt water migrate....usually at the bottom of the car/ truck where all the welds are. The two characteristics of each, welding and electrolytes, work against you.

 

Thanks for the revelation
That tells you "cover ups don't work, " if someone had applied grease on it and sprayed oil inside, every year, it would be pristine today.
2006 is way too early for a truck to rust......but they do.

 

I would like to know more. I've read to put Corrosion Free on it once a year. Is that what you recommend? Better solution? Looking for our new 2016 Taco to last a long time so please give me whatever recommendations you can.

Thank you in advance.

 

If you worry about rust, than run. Run fast run far.
here is your Toyota rust reading
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/frame-rust-recall.263311/page-54#post-10906499

There is nothing you can do to prevent rust on those frames because there are areas in the frame where you could only reach if you took your truck and sunk into bath with oil for couple days.
So whatever you put on it will not stop it, may delay the obvious places but it will rust to crap any place you have not reached.

Welcome to the Jungle

 

I have a friend who is in his 60s, lives in a heavily salted area and still drives every car he has ever owned for family transportation. They are all pristine and he depends upon oil and grease and frequent washing to keep his cars rust free for over four decades ! Yes, even Toyotas can be spared !

 

I am also in an area that uses heavy road salt. I'll be putting Fluid Film on as soon as I take delivery of my truck around Thanksgiving. I'm going to go as far as to remove the bed to get every crack and crevice I can. If you take care of your things, they will last.

 

You are 100% miss informed. You can treat any area an electrolyte like salt water or water can get to. If you cancer the area up with paint or the drain holds to prevent your access, you encourage rust. This is one reason car,Akers do no pain thier frames. If the paint gets chipped, it invites even more rust. It's up to the owner to maintain it yearly or suffere the consequences.

 

Painting does not work. Car makers do not paint thier frames as odinary, paint chips, cracks and invites rust. You should just wash, brush if you want, and paint with grease yearly.

 

I have no problem with fluid film as it is a wax or oil base product. But, it does not flow wel as oil and des not coat inside of frame box areas and anywhere parts have been attached after frame manufacture. If you want you frame to last 6 or7 years before rust starts to occur. One applications this stuff is fine. If you want it to last long, yearly inspection and application of an isolator is all that works.