Manual Transmission anyone?

yeah I hate drive by wire stuff. all this stuff is for emissions, I find that with drive by wire I have to really hit the gas pedal if I want to rev match for down shifts. Oh well... whatever it takes to save our planet. lol

 

Manuals are key. Push start is auto only. The position of the shifter is in a very comfortable position when you rest your arm on the center arm rest.

they do have this weird button you can press that over rides the clutch so y ou can start the car without pressing the clutch down. Did some reading in the manual and it's for bizarre situations where you can't take your foot off the pedal. Still can't figure out when you'd need it.

 

I think push-button start might be an option, but I don't have or want it. Position wise, the shifter is where it should be in terms of front-to-back, but a little further to the right than perfect. It's not about height, it's about wingspan. Fits me perfectly, but you'll have to sit in one to know for sure.

Also note that it's not a long-throw old truck shifter on a pipe coming out of the floor. It's a stiff, notchy, car-length shifter coming out of the top of the transmission tunnel.

 

I stand corrected! no push-button for manuals I can think of three reasons the clutch-override is there:
1: That remote-start kit you get for christmas a few years from now. The functionality is already there, no need for extensive modifications I guess.
2: I think in super-extreme rock crawling offroad stuff with a stalled engine there are situations where you actually WANT to lurch-forward on the starter motor alone... Maybe? That two-inch rollback when you go from engine-compression holding it to brake or ebrake holding it can make a big difference if you're one inch from falling off a cliff? I could be very, very wrong on this point, and I apologize if so.
3: To give dealers some stupid new nearly useless feature to upsell the truck with. Mine talked about this a bunch, and I only barely restrained the urge to roll my eyes at him.

 

I had this in my 96 Tacoma. I tried it once and it basically started without the clutch pressed and immediately took off in first gear. When would someone use this? Idk.. Maybe if some ahole parked right behind you on a hill and ANY rollback would result in you hitting their car? Or maybe you parked on a hill near a cliff edge and now you can't risk rollback off the cliff and need to go forward immediately upon start? Haha.. idk... can't think of anything else.

 

That brings up another question... When parking, should you leave it in gear or use the ebrake and leave it in neutral? What about inclines?

I hated the foot-operated ebrake in my rangers so I always just left them in gear. With the much, much more convenient handbrake in the tacoma I've been leaving it in neutral w/ the brake pulled. Are there pros and cons to each method, or does it not really matter?

 

I bought mine Wednesday, have about 350 km (200 miles?) on it. You'll get used to it

 

I ALWAYS leave my vehicle in gear when parked, and especially on a hill. I think technically by law, in my province, you must leave a manual in gear and a auto in park and e-brake on in both.

 

I have ALWAYS done both. Gear and parking brake. Double protection. A vehicle can always pop out of gear in manual format. So parking brake is backup. ESPECIALLY on a hill. Parking brake first, gear 2nd. Don't let it rest on the gears. That will likely wear them out over time. Rest the vehicle on the brakes.

 

I have used it on every Toyota truck I have owned. i use it mainly for reaching in and starting the truck in cold weather (we get cold!!! here) without entering the vehicle. With this button i can walk out stick the key in, make sure it is in neutral and start the truck then walk away. No need to actually get in the vehicle.

 

I forgot I used to do this sometimes too. I haven't had that old Yota in about 10 years now.

 

Hah! Ok, it makes sense now. I used think of this as the "snow-shovel routine" on my rangers. Open door, push parking brake with left hand, rattle into neutral with right hand, push clutch with left hand, turn key with right hand. Begin digging yourself out. Let me just say that 2wd open-diff pickups are absolute nightmares in snow. If you've never had the pleasure of driving one on snow, you don't know what the term "Idle Speed" truly means.

I'm really looking forward to this winter Hope we get dumped on. For the first time in my life, I have a vehicle with 4wd and decent ground clearance.

 

Someone asked for pictures of the interior of the Manual.

I took three sequentially, because I'm starting to suspect that they needed one more bolt of counter-clockwise rotation before they mounted the tranny

Sorry for the lighting, It was really sunny and beautiful out today

First:

Neutral:

Reverse:


That looks normal to everyone else with a manual, right?

 

I believe that the clutch start override is for situations where you are partially submerged. My last stick shift jeep would start without the clutch any time you were in 4 low.
I think it damages the manual when you press the clutch while submerged.

 

That makes a bit of sense. You don't want water flooding into the whole clutchplate setup.

But you also don't want to be using your starter motor to move your vehicle. I guess it's the lesser of the two evils?

Hell, you can always push-start it to get home with a manual

 

I like that they put the reverse gear and 1st gear far apart on the shifter. Always wondered if gen 2 people have ever accidentally moved forward when they meant to go back.

 

Does it have an anti-rollback feature? Manual JK's have one and its pretty slick.

 

That 3rd picture is reverse? Really? Not up and left from neutral as depicted on the shifter?

 

That picture is of the 5 speed manual. You can see its shift pattern on the knob.

The 6 speed manual has reverse to the left of 1st gear, and 6th gear is where reverse is on the 5 speed.

 

Parking a manual should be Reverse gear with E Brake. Parking on an incline should have the wheels turning away from the curb so if if rolls the curb will stop it. On a decline wheels should turn towards the curb. Parking in gear never hurts the trans. $.02