Thoughts on SKINNY TIRES VS THICK TIRES

I agree with you there I had BFG Mud Terrains on my 2010 and wow what a mistake. Loss of power, road noise and yes it looks nice but when my truck see's pavement Monday-Friday you just really have to consider what your needs are for the truck. With my 2016 I did my research on a slightly aggressive looking All Terrain Tire (I do go out into the desert with my dirt bike and snowboard in the winter) that was close in weight to what the truck came with using the stock size P265/65/17. I am very happy with the current tire I chose which is 265/65/17, Hankook Dynapro A/T.

 

Guess you have never had a flat riding a bike.

 

When you loose an argument, you change the debate..we are talking about skinny tires.

 

I thought so...the point head hat with the tassel gave you away....

 

Limited vocabulary......resort to name calling. You must be 35 going on 13.

 

Ohhhh. We are correcting everyone's lack of proof reading now. You have way too much free time on your hands. Look at the number of posts. So, where was I in error.......rather then resort to name calling, enlighten me.

 

Skinny or wide what you are going to feel is the weight. At least on road. Sure rolling resistance is something, but its the acceleration you notice. Most of the pizza cutters are still quite heavy for the size... KM2s are like 55 pounds. If I took the 295s off I am running which are 58 pound ATs, threw on said pizza cutters, I bet it wouldnt change much at all. Lighter steering maybe.

If you get 285s you have a better chance at getting a much lighter tire. Maybe....havent looked much...I just figure they might offer a C rated one in lieu of D or E. You could also offset some of this by getting lighter wheels, like the SCS ones...Stockers are generally heavy.

 

To this....

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=29

 

I prefer 265 75r16 for an all around tire. Not skinny, not wide. If I was going to go to a Skinny tire I would go with a 235/85r16. In the 235 you can save some weight so going up in Load Range does not give you as much weight penalty. In Duratracs you can go from a C rated 265 to a E rated 235 and only gain 2 pounds per tire. Not too bad if you ask me.. but did anyone ask me, guess not.

 

Well of course. Any tire aired down is going to have more rolling resistance. Skinny tires have less rolling resistance than wider tires.

 

My god. Did anyone read the published analysis that I posted in this thread from expedition west? It answers every question the people are arguing about. There's not a whole lot to argue when it comes to physics.

 

Wow, this thread has officially trainwrecked.



If the OP cares I run pizza cutters. 255/80/r17. I love them both on road and off. They look good too, though looks is pretty far down on my list of why I run the tires I do. I lost maybe 1-2 mpgs but it's hard to tell with the speedo being off due to the tire size and my S/C throwing the tank mileage off depending on skinny pedal use. Cooper STT Maxx skinnies are heavy though, honestly, there is a positive about that on highway. The energy in a heavy tire is conserved slightly more efficiently than in a light one, so there's that.

 

There is no disagreement about about the practicality of narrow tire vs wide in different situations. What seems to be missing is this. Airing down a wider tire in a situation you need even more floatation may be practical thing to do. Assuming which I did, that that you will be traveling similar terrain, air down a narrow tire will also give you some advantage. It will never be as good as the much wider tire to begin with and looses so much more on the other end, it is impractical to think it's a common practice for most, especially OP whom I believe was mainly after "the look." That has been my point all along. No one argues with any physics.

As far as floatation vs point loading in snow, the idea that you would let air out of a tire with a narrower tread and could not get traction in any other way, is pretty self defeating practically. First, snow is much less dense then mud in most situations and the advantaged gained will never be realized if you aren't already floating somewhat with the rig / tire combination you already have.
The diffence will be little more then asking a passenger to get out or less/ unloading a suitcase. We live in snow....heavier vehicles without VERY high floatation tires designed for snow ( arctic vehicles) just won't respond much if at all to any change in air pressure.

 

I am interested in friendly debate not resorting to calling someone names nor actually reading what I said. You seemed to disagree with my statement that letting air out of tires increases rolling resistance. You seemed to have responded to posts of your choosing but not specifically to that point. If you agree that it does increase rolling resistance, we have no problem.

Though, I will tell you in some high pressure bike tires it actually decrease rolling resistance if done appropriately....but that is for a bicycle forum.

 

Some are loosing they're $h!t in here. Their to high strung to illicit an affective response.

 

Welcome to the third gen forum. I've been in 5 threads this morning and I've seen 4 of out 5 go full retard. Some people crusading, some trolling, some just having a laugh, but it's a wasteland out here.

Honestly, the 3rd gen forum is reminding me less now of the gong show it used to be and more of the terrain from a Mad Max movie now.

 

I apologize. I, too, was having a little fun at someone's expense.

 

Btw, this published article excludes sand, mud and snow under some specific conditions. It seems mainly geared to more firm terrain or shallow enough that narrow tires would not suffer inherent disadvantages . Being that restrictive means you can "make" narrow tires perform better.....

 

Technically speaking, what you feel is known as the tires moment of inertia (or rotational inertia). It's a function of the mass and radius of the tire. Moment of inertia is what determines the torque needed to accelerate the tire. Once at speed, only the drag on the tire needs to be overcome.

 

I like em real think n juicy.