Firearm BS thread

<<<<was in the navy, hated qualifying with that gun, not only that but I was used to my G23 and my own stance, navy decided their stance was better for everyone and would only allow that for the qual. I shot a friends previously to me enlisting and never liked it, Beretta bite struck a couple times in bootcamp too.

I never shot them well.

 

Yeah, I did read it. The part about 22lr not being for adults and not being good for practice is what had me scratching my head. Granted, I don't still get paid as a shooting instructor, so maybe things have changed, but for teaching trigger control, double taps, weak hand firing, and just general good habits, a 22lr is invaluable. Aside from the professionals I shot with, I never saw an average shooter who didn't benefit greatly by incorporating a 22 into the practice regimen.

Of course many people seem to just be making noise when they go shoot once or twice a year so I guess bigger is better for that application.

 

Meh, you're just going to argue for the sake of arguing.

I did say it only goes so far. It's great for an entry weapon. I don't care to implement it as a primary use gun. Again, my opinion is just that. And it's not like your methods are perfect across the board. My wife never started on a .22, she did fine. That doesn't mean all will. Just sharing my experiences. I feel many think because .22 is so "easy" to shoot you have to train every one on it and only rely on it as a training method.

Let's have a good chat and not try to belittle or patronize people here

 

tad or ma?

 

Who's arguing? I'm just questioning your statement about 22s not being good for adults or good for practice. If you don't want one that's fine, but there are many great adult shooters out there who would disagree with you on the practicality of owning a 22lr.

 

Gotcha. Bet deployments were exciting

 

We had a few small boats come try to chase us while doing small boat ops (boat engineer). Nothing came from it.

 

Loaded up 27 rounds of 308 with extra care (trimmed brass, measured loads instead of thrown, crimped necks, etc.) today. Should be 24 more than I need for deer season. Never know when a pack of 'yotes will run under the stand though.

 

Wow thia thread blew up today. I'm thinking 22 for her purely as a range / plinking gun. If she decides she wants to carry (currently she doesn't want to) ill probably just let her carry my g19 until she decides to get something more permanent. She likes my g19 a lot anyway so it works.

I really like my glocks, don't really think they're ugly either. Need to put night sites on my 26 still.

 

Exactly ! One thing I might add about "revolvers being idiot proof" which is spot on....
I was always reminded when training that when the shit hits the fan, everyone becomes an "idiot." There is less thinking involved then in normal activities and your training takes over. The less training, the more a civilian needs simplicity in their firearms. That would be DAO revolvers and autos w/o a safety that has to be manually deactivated.

 

Has she ever shot an M&P? Reason I ask is they make both full size and compacts in 22, so if she did want to carry she could go with a M&P9c and already be familiar with the manual of arms.

I'd also look at CZ 9mms. They make a couple compacts that are slightly smaller than your g19 but heavier since they have alloy frames (PCR and P01) might help her with recoil. I do know that they are just about the best in hand feeling gun out there for many.

 

Yeah we rented an m&p something or other in 9mm and i had like 4 fte with it in 2 boxes of ammo. Sticking with Glock after that.

Really just thinking of something to plink with, she doesnt have any interest right now in carrying.

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

 

Anyone have experience with the xds 3.3? Looking to get one in 45 for ccw

 

I carry the xds 3.3 45 as my summer and late spring/early fall ccw. (full size sig 226 in the winter). Granted i picked it up when it first came out (so had to deal with the recall and all). If i were looking today id give the 9mm a good look (to be the same ammo as the 226)

I like it. It is snappy to shoot and its not a gun i would want to go to the range and put 200 rounds through it or anything. Most of my range trips with it i keep it at around 50 rounds. Pick up one of the extended mags as that makes it nicer to shoot. Whether you use the extended while carrying or not is up to you but using the extended at the range makes the gun a lot more enjoyable to shoot IMO. Havent had any issues with mine.

Its a gun I would recommend but suggest trying to shoot before buying as you might not like the small size in 45.

 

My sister has the XDs 3.3 9mm, great shooting gun, very surprised how well it shoots for the size.

 

Funny. I have a couple of M&P's with many thousands of rounds down the tube without a single failure of any kind. I would say they are second in reliability to my Beretta 92FS, but only because I've owned it a long time and have more rounds through it (also without any issues).

My wife's favorite plinking pistol is a ruger markII. Hard to find a plinker more accurate and reliable than that, but they do look a little old fashioned.

 

I always hated them too, but bought a personal one to train with (that's what the Army issues) and it has been the most reliable sidearm in the safe for more than a decade. Maybe not the most accurate, but certainly accurate enough to get the job done. I don't miss strapping one to my leg for months on end however. It's a heavy fucking thing.

 

I wouldnt write off the M&P...or any gun for that matter....based solely on a range rental. Those guns arent exactly well maintains at most ranges ive been to. When i used to go to an indoor range for pistols i remember talking to the guy behind the counter. He mentioned for the most part the guns only got cleaned maybe once a year and usually nothing more than a field strip. I asked about oiling them and he told me (at that range) the only real time they oiled them was if someone reported an issue....then they would oil it and usually that got the gun working again.

Though if you both like a glock...might as well stick with a glock. The G20 is the only gun ive ever sold. I just did not care for it at all. But i also like the 92FS lol. Kind of why they tell people to shoot a gun before ya buy it if you can. I would have never bought the G20 had i shot it prior to buying it. Luckily i broke pretty much even selling it

 

@velillen and @username the failures to feed were almost definately because they were not maintained. I just like my glocks better and have never had an issue not hating on them. Just my preference.

Never shot an m9, they look good.

I loved the fn 5.7 i shot, that thing was awesome! But too many $ for the gun and ammo for what it is for me.