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Axle shim installation HELP ?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by YotaMan, Oct 25, 2015.

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  1. Oct 25, 2015 at 1:02 PM
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    Finally got around the installing the axle shims today- I have a URGENT question- skinny side of the shims to the front? And since I have 1.5" lifting blocks does the shim go under the block (between axle pad and block) or on top of the block ( between block and leaf springs) ???? Or does it even matter? Any help would be greatly appreciated- thanks!
     
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  2. Oct 25, 2015 at 1:06 PM
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    Generally skinny side forward , yes
     
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  3. Oct 25, 2015 at 1:13 PM
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    Thanks OZ-T! Another question under lifting block or on top of lifting block ?
     
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  4. Oct 25, 2015 at 3:13 PM
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    doesn't matter really, but id put em against the springs
     
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  5. Oct 25, 2015 at 3:31 PM
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    Make sure your centre pin head extends far enough through the shim to positively engage the block
     
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  6. Oct 25, 2015 at 3:51 PM
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    Thanks, I got them in. Put the carrier bearing back to its OE position and drove the truck. It literally drives like it did the day I drove it off the lot! Not a single vibration! Thanks again to those that chimed in!
     
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  7. Oct 25, 2015 at 4:07 PM
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    you have a pic of how you installed them by chance?
     
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  8. Oct 25, 2015 at 4:46 PM
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    I do not, I took pics of the truck after but not the shims- I can take some tomorrow for you though.
     
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  9. Nov 1, 2015 at 6:31 AM
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    im new here... what is the driveline vibration people are talking about and what does the shim really do?
    I have a 2.5" lift in the front with 1.5" blocks in the rear and feel a slight thump and kind of vibration when I take off from a stop and then it goes away... is this what we are talking about?

    and to be clear I have a 2006 prerunner double cab.. so the feel is coming from the rear
     
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  10. Nov 1, 2015 at 7:31 AM
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    You're stacking the lift block & shim? Bad idea......

    You should find a lift block with the 'angle' built in and thus only have ONE piece of material (block) between the spring & spring pad on the axle.
     
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  11. Nov 1, 2015 at 1:35 PM
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    so what I am reading is that putting in a "rectangular" 1.5" lift block in will change the angle of the rear axle and drive shaft causing vibration and wear of the u joint? correct?
    If I were to remove the lift block and put in Dakar springs that will lift the rear end, would I still need shims?
     
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  12. Nov 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM
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    A lift in general -no matter how (blocks, springs, shackles etc) - can & will change the driveshaft angle. Whether you get driveshaft vibrations is an unknown until after you drive it.

    The higher the lift, the more likely you are going to have driveline vibrations.
     
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  13. Nov 1, 2015 at 3:37 PM
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    Listen to her, she speaks the truth.
     
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    Agreed...

    Highlighted: you have axle wrap.. (don't worry, it's not as bad as syphillis):p


    Good chance you would, you've only changed HOW lift was attained, not the amount, anytime you lift (or lower) you change the drive line angle in relation to the pinion/flange & the drive shaft/Ujoint & sometimes some funny things happen like vibrations, this is generally corrected by way of carrier bearing drop or in this case using shims...
     
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    So is there an easy way to figure out what degree shims would be best to start with ?
     
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  16. Nov 1, 2015 at 5:14 PM
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    The general rule is one degree per inch lift. General rules don't always hold true, but in general...
     
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  17. Nov 1, 2015 at 5:17 PM
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    If the combo being discussed works, can the all steel shim be welded to the block?
     
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    Great point. I have some shims in the mail and if they cure the shudder then I planned on welding block and shim together, but good tip on short weld technique.
     
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