king vs. icon vs. fox racing coilovers

Well jberry?!!! What would you suggest for my future use per my previous post #619? You seem to know far more about this than I do or ever will and you might suggest exactly what I want and need because I certainly don't know exactly what I'm looking for as far as specs are concerned with a given set of shocks. Only what I want. That's why I posted what i posted so people like you would make some suggestions.

 

I had thought about the Billies since so many use them but I think the OME's would be a little better and since, for the time being I'm going to use OME front springs I'd like to keep everything the same as far as brand is concerned. With the exception of my rear leafs of course.

 

What exactly is it that you want out of your shocks? You never really said what you want.

 

I thought I pretty much explained that in post #619. I want a non-jarring ride at 75 or 80 mph on rough pavement and I still want to be able to go trail riding on the weekends without getting beat to death. This is a daily driver but of course, I do go "exploring" on the weekends or camping. I just want the suspension to do what it is supposed to do. Keep the rubber on the ground and not beat me to death. I also don't haul anything heavy in it and if I do it won't be very often or for very far.

 

As I said in my earlier post I'll go with the OME for now and next summer go with the nice stuff. I won't have any problem dropping $2500-$3000 on the rear shocks and the front coil overs/strut set. I just want this short wheelbased Taco to ride as nice as possible out on the rough paved roads at 75+ mph and still handle the slow speed off road trail riding I do. I also tend to climb some rather steep stuff with 1' diameter rocks and smaller along with rock "ledges" sometimes 1' to 2' foot high (IMO) when I need to get over it. Nothing like the serious Rock Crawlers and hill climbers that I have seen pics of. This is a utility, DD vehicle. I'm just fed up with getting beat to death and having it jump around every time I hit a really rough patch of highway at 75 mph or a manhole cover at 25mph. That goes for how it handles the dirt roads I "explore" on. After about 10 miles I'm ready for rough pavement again and I don't run high speeds off road. 20 mph and I feel like I'm really hauling some ass. Then there is the washboard which I can't even stand 1 mile on right now. At 3 mph my teeth are knocked out and trying to "skip" over the washboard results in the rear end becoming the front end.

 

Mind explaining digress ice dampening to me? I'm trying to dial in my suspension.

 

I just recently moved from Utah to Wyoming but you are probably right.

 

@TRVLR500 esp since Kings are available in a non resi front coilover for the first gen, that probably the route I'd go if I were you. That's what I would have done if non resi's were available for the second gen. As Jberry said, ask for the street friendly/slow speed valving. Downsouth motorsports (Wheeler's @YotaDan might do it too, idk) will do the custom valving free one time with your purchase.

 

Digressive means the shock is stiffer at the very beginning of it's compression and compression damping lessens as the shock travels through it's stroke.. Progressive means the damping is lighter during the beginning of it's travel and stiffens as it goes through it's travel.

 

Thank you, Helm. I'll check the prices on that.

 

Assuming you had a progressive shock with the slow speed valving, and a digressive shock with slow speed valving, which one would have better on road characteristics? (Quick maneuvering ability, and reducing body roll) Assuming both had 650# springs

 

This, but to a point. Once the Icon shock hits a certain point obviously the shock isn't going to go to zero dampening. From the way it was explained to me the Icon is digressive but on a logarithmic curve with a minimum point at which it is no longer digressive. Icon is known for great road manners and low speed whoops. I know guys who like them, but they have their drawbacks too.

Personally, I've wanted Fox since I was a kid, so you know my bias lol.

 

So icon is better at slow speed?

 

This sounds like it would suite what you are looking for.

I think you would be happier skipping the OME and just going to Kings sooner.

 

Depends on the ride you like. To be honest better would be a matter of opinion. Personally I don't like the materials Icon uses in their shafts and I've heard nasty things about how open they are about sharing their pressure settings so I would prefer the Kings, ADS, or Fox shocks over Icon. Like I said, with the proper setup and tuning, any of those shocks will likely feel amazing to you. @jberry813 can probably tell the PSI from a ten foot drive, so I wouldn't say his feelings about specific shock nuances will directly apply to your own experience.

That being said, his advice on pressures and what to buy for your needs is probably spot on.

 

I have billies and am getting icon rears next month. Just deciding what fronts to go with.

 

5100 fronts or 6112?