Manual transmissions future

I bet you are right. But still be fairly large even sized downcompared to the current. I'd still take one.

 

Oh hell yeah, so would I...

 

Not so big, lots of cars used to come with separate overdrives, same thing scaled down. Learned to drive in a 54 Merc and a 47 Studebaker pickup that both had hem. Installed one on my Model A Ford roadster and drove it 27 years. It now sits on display at Parker Tire, still all original body and running gear. Even little MGBs and Austin Healey's all had optional overdrives in the 60s which was a great way to get low-end grunt out of small engines and still be able to cruise on the highways

 

Bought a first gen. with a stick, loved it, moved on to an automatic Rav4 and loved it (change in circumstances means a lot of gravel roads for me now). I thought I would be fine with an automatic in my new Tacoma until I drove my husband's 2nd gen manual. Remembered how much more fun it is to drive a stick, so one of the 4 (in Canada) Inferno TRD Sport Tacomas with a manual is currently heading for me on a train from Texas. For me, it just feels like I am more engaged in the act of driving when there is a stick. I tend to feel a bit like the car is on autopilot when it is an automatic.

I hope they don't stop making them.

 

For real? So if a manual Tacoma states 20 mpg combined on the sticker, a long-term average would be around 20 x 1.1 = 22 mpg?

 

Not really. GM knows their buyers are typically older types who prefer the truck to drive like a car. Most Colorado/Canyon buyers aren't driving enthusiasts like a lot of Tacoma buyers are. Toyota is also okay with their manual dropping mpg a bit.

 

Yes. I've owned over 25 manuals (used to drive 45-60k a year) and this has been the case with all. Some higher performance rigs have an even wider spread. I work out of the country some, and other countries actually drive the cars to get these figures...they report a wide disparity with the EPA there

 

I don't know for the 3rd gen tacomas, but the 2nd gen tacomas the overdrive gearing isn't low enough to get good economy.

 

The 3rd gen has two overdrive gears. Stock tires on the DCSB Sport 4x4 gives about 2000 rpm at 60mph in 6th

 

I imagine as CAFE regs tighten up even more Toyota will drop the manual but for now it's still profitable to offer it. I love the control manuals offer.

 

I 100% agree with the lady here. Exact reason I never bought an automatic for my personal vehicle.

 

stick shift vehicles always sell easier and for more money used. people actually look for them. Sure, in the near future, a lot of people won't even know what "stick shift" means, but there will always be people looking for them. Also the rarer they become, the more sought after they will be.

 

Not sure what you're saying. Are you saying a TRD Sport that was slated for delivery from Texas to Canada is being re-routed to some American dealer where you'll consummate the deal? If that's so, I imagine you'll have a Canadian-spec'd rig, which means, among other things, that the dominant read on the speedometer will be km/h rather than mph.

I ask, because many prospective 3d gen buyers in the USA would like to get a manual TRD Off-Road, which allegedly is available only through a Canadian dealer. And the board folklore is that Canadian dealers won't do business with Yanks.​

 

I'm stuck on which to order.
As much as I love driving manual, I hate long throws. I know people are saying they aren't that long, compared to other trucks, but I'm used to driving subaru wrx with a short throw or a audi s4 short throw.
Plus I love manual on the highway and when driving on country roads etc, but in stop and go traffic in the city which I'll be doing every day during the week for work, it would suck.

I know there will be plenty of times I want the manual and then the times I'll dread having it. I really just need to test drive the manual and see how bad the shifts are to me. Other than that I am leaning towards the auto much more.

 

Lets talk fuel economics :

I get 16mpg combined
Automatic gets 20mpg combined

Difference 4mpg X 20gal = 80miles / 16mpg = 5 gallons

So a manual costs me 5gal x $2.25/gal = $11.25 more per tank of gas to drive the truck I want....

So in a year if I fill up once every week I will pay:
52weeks X $11.25 = $585 more a year to drive a manual

Sooo is there a way for me to make up the $585 deficit
for driving the truck I want in my current lifestyle.

Hands down you bet, it's called 1 extra job on the weekend (one day) A YEAR using my truck to do that 1 extra job....

$585 meh its coin for sure but so is a $5 cup of coffee at $tarbucks. $5x220days = $1100

 

I traded in a Jeep Grand Cherokee manual a few years ago on a new '97 F150 4x4 manual. KBB said I'd get $8k trade or $10K selling outright. I got $12k trade against invoice because they had customers bidding against each other for it. It was one of a handful of GC's delivered in Colorado with a manual, the only year it was offered.

 

I purposely looked for a manual transmission when buying my current truck. I love a stick and wouldn't have it any other way. The only time I hate one is in heavy traffic, but the trade-off for me is worth it.

 

This is what i'm worried about. not many people care for the manual anymore and the "sport shifting" doesn't make sense to me. whats the point? The first thing a dealer tells me every time i ask about manuals is to tell me how i don't want a manual and how the automatic can be used just like a manual . My car has an 8 speed dual clutch transmission and flappy paddles that I have tried to convince myself is just as fun as a manual but its not even close.

 

No. Sorry. I just meant that my truck (I am in Canada) is currently on a train headed for me.

 

The manual tranny throws are much shorter than a 60's corvette, Mustang or any other muscle car I've driven. Lots of this may have to do with seating position as well. In my WRX and Outback XT turbos I was sitting much lower in relation to the shifter. In my Mustang and other muscle cars I've tried, as well as full-size pickups, the seating position is higher in relation to the shifter.