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BFG Long Trails vs BFG Rugged Trails

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Dabates, Nov 9, 2009.

  1. Nov 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM
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    S-M-R-T

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    I would pass on either model... or any other BFG model for that matter. The vast majority of BFGs suck in my opinion. BFG spends too much time and money on advertising and not enough on R&D.

    If you are looking for a tire to run in the snow then there is absolutely no substitute for real winter tires. Do not run all terrains in the winter. Period. Spend the money on good tires or eventually you will spend it on the consequences. Trust me.

    Small changes in tire size won't make much difference in fuel economy. On dry pavement a more agressive tread will cost you a little in fuel economy and tread life over less agressives patterns. In the winter the opposite is true because you will waste a boatload of fuel spinning your useless tires at every intersection.

    Don't be in too much hurry to buy. Spend the time to read reviews and pick better tires. ...unless you like wasting money.
     
  2. Nov 9, 2009 at 5:15 PM
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    I just got a set of Rugged Trails or fails people like to call them and so far couldn't be happier. They have about 8000 miles on them and look brand new and ride great. I drive mostly highway and didn't want the whine of the A/T tires. Just a little different answer than the crowd...
     
  3. Nov 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM
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    I have to disagree with the statement about AT's being bad in winter. My opinion is that they are an awesome winter tire, comparable to a winter only tire. I had winter tires on my wife's previous 2 vehicles, and the BFG AT's are very similmar in performance, right down to the squishy handling.....Hence the soon to be meaningless mountain/snowflake symbol.... (On the AT's)
     
  4. Nov 9, 2009 at 5:37 PM
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    I bought A/T in 94 they lasted 25k if that. I dont know if they last longer these days but my 04 has Rugged from factory and Im at 50k with some life left. Softer tires get better traction but they don't last as long. Because of the cost of replacing them 50k out of a set of tires is what I like.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2009 at 5:52 PM
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    Hands down, BFG All Terrain are the only way to go. I've had them on all of my 4x4's for the passed 20 years, and easly get well over 70k miles on them with still decent amount of tread. It's the ONLY tire I buy, period.
     
  6. Nov 9, 2009 at 6:30 PM
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    The rubber compounds are still very different on an AT compared to a winter tire. Tread patterns become irrelevant in a hurry when the compound turns into a hockey puck. I do agree that the snowflake rating doesn't mean much that is why I said to study and decide for yourself.

    There are always people who will think that an all terrain or all season is good enough for the winter. The truth is that the worst winter tire is still better then the best all season.
     
  7. Nov 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM
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    Well said.History speaks for itself.Lots of us have different opinions but we are just a part of the whole consumer stat.Theres alot to look into like allignment,balancing and driving habits.To those who bash the BFG ATs,I would like to know what do do you suggest that has been there for 30 years in the market with minimal modification and has proven its performance in 3 decades of A/T class.I will gladly consider if it will last for 5 years bearing the same name and tread design.
     
  8. Nov 9, 2009 at 10:08 PM
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    I use my tires off of the pavement as well as on. BFG all terrains are fine on the highway but off they wear quickly and have weak sidewalls which lead to shorter lifespans as soon as they hit the gravel. Look at working trucks that drive FSRs for a living and you won't see many BFGs.

    If your driving habits consist of commuting to the mall or being a weekend warrior who never sees mud they work great. Anything beyond that is out of their element. This is based on my personal experience over many thousands of gravel road kms with a variety of tire brands and models as well as the testimony of many others I know that will never run BFG All Terrains off pavement again.

    The fact that they haven't been updated in a long time is a negative in the tire world, not a positive. The BFG Mud Terrain finally got updated and strengthened because it sucked off road and started falling in sales. The All Terrain is bought 95% of the time for pavement princesses so it hasn't lost sales and therefore has yet to see improvement.
     
  9. Nov 10, 2009 at 3:32 AM
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    If you ask 20 different people, your going to get 20 different answers. That is fact, my tire choice is just my "opinion"........:)
     
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    Im sorry to hear about your BFG A/T experience.As far as All terrains are concerned they are made for different kinds of roads and perform at a satisfactory score.As we all know there are Off road tires that will do a good job off pavement.on the other hand they dont have sipes to handle snow.A/Ts compromise performance to gain Acceptable grade to all kinds of roads which means they are not the best tire off road,on pavement or mud.but they can do all these in moderation.Just my .02.
     
  11. Nov 10, 2009 at 5:22 AM
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    Hmmm... well speaking as a Vermonter who drives at least 50% on gravel and dirt roads, I must disagree. I am most definitely not a "pavement princess" nor did I build a mall crawler. I have just happened to find them to be damn good tires on just about any surface (pavement, gravel, dirt roads; snow, sand, mud, rocks) for most of the places I have brought my truck (from driving to Boston to long days of trail riding, etc.).

    Just another .02. Don't call me a pavement princess again.
     
  12. Nov 10, 2009 at 9:05 AM
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    I've had BFG A/Ts on my past 2 vehicles, and when the Bridgestones wear on on this one..I'm putting them on this truck.

    in all honestly, I've never been through any kinds of hardcore trail riding with them. However, I live on a farm, and I'm also a volunteer firefighter... so getting off pavement in my truck does happen from time to time and these tires have never let me down.
     
  13. Nov 10, 2009 at 1:33 PM
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    All terrains all the way
     
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    The BFG AT KO is the only model sold now, and has a much different tread compound than the old AT. The compound has changed, and along with it came the snow tire designation. And poor quality winter tires do not compare to the all snow performance of some of the latest all weather tires. I was comparing the excellent winter tires on my wifes vehicle to the AT's. The compare well was my point.
    Of the 3 BFG's the AT is the only extreme weather rated tire A.F.A.I.K.
     
  15. Nov 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM
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    All i can say is Ive lived in vermont for 4 last 4 years and before that 4 years in syracuse with the BFG all terrains and never had any problems in some of the worst north eastern weather Ive ever seen
     
  16. Nov 10, 2009 at 4:13 PM
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    nelson18matt2 same guy as other nelson18matt

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    dont waste your time or money on rugged trails or any of that crap. BFG all terrains.
     
  17. Nov 10, 2009 at 4:32 PM
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    What are you talking about? The All Terrains have a wicked stiff sidewall. At 265x75x16 they only come in an E-load 10ply tire, with a 3 ply sidewall. You have to air them down to damn near nothing to get any sidewall flex.

    As for the long trails, I have no experience with them off road, but on road and in snow and ice, they've performed very admirably. Much better than my Michelin LTX M/S. (although those were stellar in wet conditions).
     

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