1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Frame Issues. Should I undercoat?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by MlcKTMGUy, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. Nov 8, 2015 at 7:32 PM
    #21
    shakerhood

    shakerhood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Member:
    #161370
    Messages:
    36,973
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM DCSB Off Road, 6 Speed MT, P&T
    Wow, Small world for sure, I used to work in Cranberry about 20 years ago. I sprayed the frame of my 2008 with Eastwood Anti Rust product and it worked great, no rust when I traded it for the 2015. I sprayed the 2015 with CRC Anti Corrosion and Eastwood stuff and expect no rust on this one either.
     
  2. Nov 8, 2015 at 7:41 PM
    #22
    Dagosa

    Dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2014
    Member:
    #140526
    Messages:
    2,436
    Gender:
    Male
    New England
    Vehicle:
    2015 Taco TRD OR
    Debaged
    Tacky is good, dry is bad. What ever you use, if it drys, it hardens. That is why they don't paint frames from the factory. They aren't trying to piss everyone off. If paint scratches, it allows moisture which then migrates under the dried paint and can rust more severely. What ever stays tacky, adheres and seals moisture, keeping it from spreading. Wet, tacky, soft, all good. Dry and hard .....bad for undercoating as the frame takes a much more severe beating from road debri then the body which people tend to touch up regardless.
     
  3. Nov 8, 2015 at 7:44 PM
    #23
    vlodpg

    vlodpg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2015
    Member:
    #158734
    Messages:
    393
    Gender:
    Male
    Connecticut
    Vehicle:
    15 Tacoma TRD Off Road 6sp Supercharged
    TRD Supercharger/URD Stage II Clutch

    Did you use the stuff that is a yellow beeswax like color?
     
  4. Nov 8, 2015 at 8:02 PM
    #24
    shakerhood

    shakerhood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Member:
    #161370
    Messages:
    36,973
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM DCSB Off Road, 6 Speed MT, P&T
    Yes, both the CRC and the Eastwood stuff are kind of an Amber Colored waxy type spray.
     
  5. Nov 8, 2015 at 9:46 PM
    #25
    vlodpg

    vlodpg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2015
    Member:
    #158734
    Messages:
    393
    Gender:
    Male
    Connecticut
    Vehicle:
    15 Tacoma TRD Off Road 6sp Supercharged
    TRD Supercharger/URD Stage II Clutch
    I thought they recommend that stuff for only inner cavities.
     
  6. Nov 9, 2015 at 4:00 PM
    #26
    shakerhood

    shakerhood Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2015
    Member:
    #161370
    Messages:
    36,973
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM DCSB Off Road, 6 Speed MT, P&T
    Nope, you can spray on any exposed areas.
     
  7. Nov 10, 2015 at 3:47 AM
    #27
    george3

    george3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Member:
    #7173
    Messages:
    4,583
    New Jersey
    Vehicle:
    2008 2.7 Manual Trans Tacoma
    Seat belt beeper, Cabelas (Weathertech) floor liner gray, Covercraft Seat Savers in Taupe, Protecta Heavy Duty Rubber Truck Bed Mat, Pop n Lock PL5200, Pace Edwards Full Metal JackRabbit, Wolverine oil pan heater, Scangauge2, afe pro dry s filter, Remote Underbody 4 Piece LED Light Kit (White) used as Bed light, DIY Washable Cabin Air Filter, PA15-TOY, 4x4 Illuminated Switch, full synthetic, Redline Tuning Hood Support, Smittybilt Nerf Steps black powder-coated
  8. Nov 10, 2015 at 3:53 AM
    #28
    george3

    george3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Member:
    #7173
    Messages:
    4,583
    New Jersey
    Vehicle:
    2008 2.7 Manual Trans Tacoma
    Seat belt beeper, Cabelas (Weathertech) floor liner gray, Covercraft Seat Savers in Taupe, Protecta Heavy Duty Rubber Truck Bed Mat, Pop n Lock PL5200, Pace Edwards Full Metal JackRabbit, Wolverine oil pan heater, Scangauge2, afe pro dry s filter, Remote Underbody 4 Piece LED Light Kit (White) used as Bed light, DIY Washable Cabin Air Filter, PA15-TOY, 4x4 Illuminated Switch, full synthetic, Redline Tuning Hood Support, Smittybilt Nerf Steps black powder-coated
    Ramstein Brewery
     
  9. Nov 10, 2015 at 6:35 AM
    #29
    LEBM

    LEBM Thread Killer

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2009
    Member:
    #26586
    Messages:
    499
    Gender:
    Male
    Eleanor, WV
    Vehicle:
    2021 TRD PRO 6MT Midnight Black
    Just fluid filmed the hell out of my frame this past weekend. Garage stinks a little bit, but I'll sleep a little better at night.
     
  10. Nov 10, 2015 at 6:41 AM
    #30
    skiergd011013

    skiergd011013 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2014
    Member:
    #138178
    Messages:
    2,647
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD Offroad 4x4 AC SSM
    Fwiw, here is my writeup from my krown experience yesterday
     
  11. Nov 10, 2015 at 6:42 AM
    #31
    skiergd011013

    skiergd011013 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2014
    Member:
    #138178
    Messages:
    2,647
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD Offroad 4x4 AC SSM
    Ok guys. I did the krown treatment today. I have to say, i am sold. I am Very impressed with the whole process, and the service i received. the guy let me watch the whole thing, explained it to me, and did an Extremely thorough job. The whole underside of my truck is glistening, and dripping with the stuff. I know fluid film is proven and respected, but you just cannot do as thorough as a job with it at home unless you have some special equipment. The guy drilled holes in key places(all out of sight, inside the doors etc) , inserted a special wand and sprayed the krown behind the sheet metal on the whole truck. On the back, he removed the tailights, and inserted what had to be a 6 foot wand all the way down the insides of the bed, and sprayed. The inside of my bumper, tailgate, spare tire, hood, gas door, skid plate, absolutely everything is covered. I will be doing this every year to protect the truck. Pic one: all doors open for drilling and spraying, hood open for spraying, as well as gas door. [​IMG]the 6 foot wand inserted behind the bed sheet metal[​IMG]up on the lift, so he could spray leafsprings, everything in the wheel well areas, and the entire underside[​IMG]everything is dripping wet with the krown [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]one of the hole plugs. All located inside the doors, out of sight. They look completely factory.[​IMG]some dripping coming from the tailgate. Dripping should stop within 24 hours. [​IMG]they do wash the vehicles to get overspray off after the krowning. I opted to wash it myself on the way home. Didn't want their dirty, gritty brush touching my paint.
     
    chiefridr and tomwil like this.
  12. Nov 10, 2015 at 10:15 AM
    #32
    chiefridr

    chiefridr I don't want a large farva!

    Joined:
    May 4, 2009
    Member:
    #16799
    Messages:
    171
    Gender:
    Male
    Carrollton, TX
    Vehicle:
    16 DCTRDOR
    I know a guy who owns 2 Krown franchises. My truck is an 09, and I live in Upstate NY (tons of salt here in the winter), and he said this stuff can completely stop the rust damage on my truck and prevent more. He said its way better than Ziebart. But of course thats his competitor, so of course he's gonna say that! But Krown looks like a much better product. He said all done on my truck for about $150. Again, way cheaper that Ziebart. They clean all the old salt residue off first (Ziebart doesn't do that) then treat it like skiergd011013's truck above. All in about an hour-hour and a half while you wait (Ziebart wants your truck all day at their shops here). Known also treats all the local municipal highway depts. plow trucks with this stuff. Great write up btw!
     
  13. Nov 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM
    #33
    skiergd011013

    skiergd011013 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2014
    Member:
    #138178
    Messages:
    2,647
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2010 TRD Offroad 4x4 AC SSM
    :thumbsup:
     
  14. Nov 10, 2015 at 10:34 AM
    #34
    Tac0maSteve

    Tac0maSteve Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2015
    Member:
    #148633
    Messages:
    736
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    East Bay, CA
    Vehicle:
    '15 TRD Off Road Icon Ext. Travel
    DCSB... No mods here
    @Mademan925 Don't think we really have this problem unless we are driving on salty roads. But this is really cool.
     
    Mademan925 likes this.
  15. Nov 10, 2015 at 12:39 PM
    #35
    Rotnik

    Rotnik Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2014
    Member:
    #126390
    Messages:
    134
    Gender:
    Male
    Connecticut
    Vehicle:
    13' TRD OR AC V6 6MT - In spruce

    Yes but my brother just got his recall notice from GM for his 2014 HD work truck. Supposedly the undercoat they used is cracking, falling apart and trapping some water and dirt/salt in the cracks. A quick look at his frame this weekend, and yes it is indeed falling apart already.
     
  16. Nov 10, 2015 at 5:29 PM
    #36
    vlodpg

    vlodpg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2015
    Member:
    #158734
    Messages:
    393
    Gender:
    Male
    Connecticut
    Vehicle:
    15 Tacoma TRD Off Road 6sp Supercharged
    TRD Supercharger/URD Stage II Clutch
    The stuff I saw on the 2015 was a soft wax type finish, it wasn't like a spray on but a dip finish. Maybe is was different that what they used in 2014 & earlier.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top