MOTOR TREND 0-60 6.8, 7.1 new Truck of the year test

The technique the particular magazine used to do the dragstrip runs matters a lot (launch in 4x4 or 4x2, brake-torquing, etc.). The best numbers I've seen on a 2nd gen Taco was a DCLB SR5 auto long-term tester with C&D, clocking 6.9 sec 0-60 mph on Dunflops.

 

The latest Golf TDI had 150hp and weighs about 3200 lbs (21.3 lb/hp). The V6 Tacoma has 278 hp and weights about 4500 lbs (16.2 lb/hp).
That Saturn V feeling was probably from being rear ended by the Tacoma following you up the hill

 

You can dream on, to catch up to Golf Tdi. but not even in your dreams.

 

The fuel mileage is certainly impressive. The 9 second 0-60 time less so. And this is the most powerful TDI ever. http://www.motortrend.com/news/2015-volkswagen-golf-tdi-first-test/

 

You yourself tried to use the formula to prove a point. It was clear you didn't understand it then as you don't understand it now.

I don't know what you are trying to insinuate with pointing out that companies are investing in more efficient turbos Making internals lighter is very doable but then you will need to incorporate a glow plug or even spark plug, defeating the purpose of a diesel... I fail to follow your argument; I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Additionally, in a 0-60 test, you will only experience "lag" in first gear.

The Duramax specs state 369 ft/lds at 2000 RPM's. There is not one iota of noticeable lag in that engine. It doesn't accelerate well because it only produces 181HP which defines its ability to do work.

You know what else has lag? A 1000+hp 2JZ. Has a shit ton of lag, generally up to 4500 RPM's. Must be a slow engine too

 

The funny thing is that if Toyota offered a diesel and Chevy didn't, diesels would be the most awesome thing ever and gas engines would suck.

Toyota fanboys. Gotta luv 'em.

 

Look its clear you never owned a turbo charged vehicle or a diesel. If you think its HP issue than as I said publish your idea you will get Nobel for that, for sure, or apply for a job to Holset or Cummins. I am sure they would love to learn something new
I am surprised you have not suggested installing ECT button as additional help I am mean on 2016 Tacoma ECT button works miracles right...

Now in case others are reading what you dumped here.
Here is Holset video of the Nissan Titan XD Turbo system. With some explanation of the lag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wDbJUlWzcI

And the Quote:

Its not HP.

 

I bet the 2.5L I-4 accelerates faster than he 2.8L diesel. In fact, if I'm wrong, I'll PayPal @BlueT $20

Do you even know what HP is? It is literally the measurement of the amount of work output of an engine. Holy shit. Yeah, companies try very hard to eliminate turbo lag for diesels because their range of RPM's is so narrow they need every advantage possible.

Go google that and come back when you educate yourself.

While you are getting schooled on google, look up the 0-60 times of the 2.0L Civic SI vs 2.4L Civic SI. Tell me why they are almost identical when the torque output is so much higher in the 2.4L (here's a hint, check out the HP).

 

Damn blue you got served by the mini van engine. Yeah that sweet Titan gets torn to shreds by the 3.5. The 2.7 would be a better match for it

 

I'm so confused...

 

Put BlueT on Ignore and this thread (and many others) will make a lot more sense.

 

Do you ?

Again, you wasting your time, you should patent this and let Cummins know, clearly you are smarter than their Eng team ...

Heck since apparently you have different view on Newton's Second law, you will get Nobel for sure too.

[IMG of Sir Isaac Newton doing a face-palm]

 

Sweet Jesus!

 

Lol, hoooo boy. Always good entertainment to un-ignore BlueT on a thread. Seriously I think he just strings random words on a topic together and calls it a fact.

What's the next topic: Diesel pulls harder, but slower? Let's try that one! I call dibs on Tesla's third law of aerodynamics.

 

Your getting schooled and your still flapping your gums haha pathetic little boy

 

I enjoy reading his posts because I can just picture some big bumbling idiot attempting to educate people. Kinda like Sloth from the Goonies...

 

Yes I do. Read the second sentence. The word "literally" is literally used in a non sarcastic way.

Yes I know, arguing with a retarded shitting pigeon that plays chess or something like that.

 

Hey Gaiz! If I spray paint my frame with 20 cans of orange spray paint will my rust problem go away? Would it helped if I brushed or rolled it on instead of spraying to get full coverage?

BlueT, you're a clown literally with your McDonalds painted truck. I can't believe you're honestly here trying to give folks shit with brand new trucks when your rusty POS is falling apart by the day if it still even runs.

 

Alright, let me take a stab at this one. And for transparency sake, I'm a supporter of diesel but can recognize the merits of gasoline engines. (I own both).

First, expelling myths. Torque does not win races, horsepower does. Before a Carrol Shelby fan stabs me, let me explain. Horsepower is a made up unit of measure (originally applied to steam engines whose main competition was horses) based on the amount of work a horse can do. Work is force over a period of time. Applied to an engine, force is torque, time is RPM, and work is horsepower. HP and torque are thus directly related as can be seen in the formula HP=Tq X RPM/5252.

Now, how this comes in to play. St. Andrew is right in that the reason the Dmax is slower is because of lack of horsepower. Foot to the floor, the lower torque but higher RPM (and as a result, higher horsepower) Tacoma accelerates stronger. I can also see a little of what BlueT is saying about turbo lag slightly affecting 0-60 times (every turbo engine has it to some degree) but it should be minuscule, escpecially in rolling tests.

But, in defense of the Dmax and diesels in general, it's not about outright speed. It's the comfort at which a task is done. At 2,000rpm (a very common cruising RPM) the Dmax produces well over 100 more ftlbs of torque meaning that the downshift needed to keep the Tacoma going may very well be avoided all together. I think we can all agree that timed acceleration tests aren't something we do often while towing.

This same argument has been gone through multiple times on the Ram forums. Hemi vs Ecodiesel is everywhere. The difference there is that both are Dodges so subjective arguments, brand loyalty, etc. doesn't come into play like it does here. If Toyota had the diesel, we'd be supporting it instead of gas.

Also, I'm definitely not saying diesels can't accelerate well or gas engines can't tow. Big block gas engines were the go to choice for towing for years but the modern turbo diesel has largely supplanted them due better reliability, equal or better performance, and better MPG. On the other hand, diesels have dominated LeMans for over a decade now and my 7,000lb '01 Cummins ran high 12s with nearly 200k miles on it and went to work everyday. So there is definitely a gray area.

 

I don't really understand this. We may not do timed acceleration tests but we certainly do merge onto freeways. When merging onto a freeway where traffic is going 75 mph, you want some real HP to get you up to speed. Just because you are buzzing up near redline doesn't really matter much compared to the semi barreling down on you.

The reviewers kept saying the same thing about it "not breaking a sweat" and being well composed. I guess 181 hp at 3400 rpm (that's right, peak hp is at 3400 rpm!) gets you that, but does it get you on the freeway with your trailer in comfort?