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OME 885s/5100s

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by bobbybreach, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. Nov 20, 2015 at 7:54 AM
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    So I've done a bunch or research and can't find an answer to my multiple questions.

    If I get OME 885s can I use my stock shocks? Or should I get 5100s set at 0?
    Or should I just get the 5100s set at 1.75" with stock coils?

    I would like to lift the rear 1"-1 1/2" and hopefully increase my payload a little bit. I would replace the shocks with Billy's but what is the best AAL I should add to achieve my height and load increase?
     
  2. Nov 20, 2015 at 7:57 AM
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    GuitarGuy91

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    If you're lifting front and rear, you could look at the lift kit from OME. Could even do replacement leaf packs from Dakar, increases payload.
     
  3. Nov 20, 2015 at 8:00 AM
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    I am no expert, but what I did up front was 5100 at zero, and 885 springs. I also added new LR UCAs, its debateable if they are needed, I did it to ensure great alignment numbers and drivability. In rear, new shocks and best bet is a new leaf pack, then 3 leaf AAL, then single AAL which is what i did. New leaf pack wont increase your vehicles GVRW, but will not sag as bad as stock leaf pack.
     
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    If you replace your stock coils with OME 885's and throw in Bilstein 5100's set at 0 I believe that will give you 2.5" of lift. At that point you should replace your UCA's to get your wheel alignment right again. If you don't want to replace your UCA, just go with 5100's on stock coils.
     
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    +1 to Marie at Headstrong
     
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    I personnaly would not use my regular shocks with 885. 5100 should IMO ( an opinion only) be set at 0 with 885. Just got my 5100 and 885 yesterday, will be going on as soon as my misc. parts come in.
     
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  7. Nov 20, 2015 at 8:07 AM
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    I only want 1.5" - 1.75" of lift in the front. If I get 885s and 5100s set at 0 will that give me more lift than what I want?
     
  8. Nov 20, 2015 at 8:20 AM
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    Or if I did 885s with OME shocks will that give me my desired height?
     
  9. Nov 20, 2015 at 8:28 AM
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    It would give you about 2.5"of lift.
     
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  11. Nov 20, 2015 at 9:15 AM
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    So the only way to get about 1.75" of front end lift would be to do 5100s?
     
  12. Nov 20, 2015 at 9:47 AM
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    Why is that?
    You understand the stock shocks spec out the same as the 5100s when at ZERO right (well there is a little difference, but I won't get into that)?

    So many people make these bold statements on here yet have nothing to support these statements, most are mere assumptions at best. The coil design of the OME and Eibach are the same as the Factory coils with the bottom taper, which all fit the same in the lower spring seat. The only difference between the factory coils and the OME would be spring length and rate. The rate will usually cause concern with those who are unfamiliar with how a coil works and the length seems to as well. Yes length translates to more preload, but what to you think is happening when someone uses a coil spacer with the factory coils (this happens all the time). If there is any concern with this configuration it should be the compressed length of the coils thereby potentially causing coil bind, but no one talks about this because perhaps they don't know the specs and/or simply the factors that determine coils successful use with a given shock.
     
  13. Nov 20, 2015 at 9:56 AM
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    Perhaps look into a top plate spacer lift. When a spacer is speced out properly and research has been done to ensure against maxing out the UCA balljoints on down travel and contacting the bumps on up travel, its a perfectly acceptable way to gain minimal lift without influencing the quality of ride. Those that bash all spacers just don't understand whats going on with the suspension when a spacer is added, they instead listen to every other member on here rambling off bad information.
     
  14. Nov 20, 2015 at 10:28 AM
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    You could try the 884 coils for 1.5 to 2 inches of lift.
     
  15. Nov 20, 2015 at 10:35 AM
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    Doesn't the 885s give about 1.6" of lift?
     
  16. Nov 20, 2015 at 11:33 AM
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    I would guess the 885 is closed to 2 to 2.5
     
  17. Nov 20, 2015 at 1:01 PM
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    Where did you hear that?
    Let me guess someone on here rambling bad info again :facepalm:

    885 coils provide approx. 2.5" of lift when on a double cab 4x4. The lift varies based on the truck (Prerunner, access cab, .....) due to the difference in the weight of the truck.

    The only 1.6" lift coil I can think of would be the shorter Toytec/Eibach coil
     
  18. Nov 20, 2015 at 1:08 PM
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    What about Bilstein 6112's to give you a more modest lift?
     
  19. Nov 20, 2015 at 1:10 PM
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    Also, you could add a block in the rear, and it wouldn't affect the factory ride. I know a lot of guys don't blocks, but if its under 2" they shouldn't be a problem, as long as your stock springs are in good shape and you are not seeking to add load capability.
     
  20. Nov 20, 2015 at 1:36 PM
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    yes mine is a DCSB 4x4. would the 884s give me 1.5''-2'' of lift?
     

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