Raptor 700R

Im thinking about getting a raptor 700r around tax time. I was wondering what are some good power adders to start out with? I have read some articles that the raptor have a speed sensor that you can disconnect to give you a few more mph. Any raptor owners out there that have good suggestions I would appreciate the input.

 

have you sat on one yet? are you a big guy?

 

Well Im about 6'1 and about 175. I have driven the raptor 660 and have riden a 2007 honda cr 450r a good bit. I've been riding since I was about 6 or so and Im getting the itch to get something again. The honda was my old roommates bike and that thing is super fast. He would sell it to me but Im really wanting a quad though.

 

intake and exhaust first i would assume..

 

just curious because it's physically a BIG bike. I'm only 5'6 150lbs, so it felt a little too big & tall to me. I ended up going YFZ450. Other than the size, I think the 700 is a nice bike.

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Don't know if you can with the 700 - but put a jet kit on it. I put the GYTR kit on my 450 and it opened it up big time.

 

It's fuel injected, no carb.

I say put a slip on exhaust of your choice, and an air filter.

 

doh

 

this

http://www.jokersvault.com/index.ph...oducts_id=21&zenid=i2lmf07kipsh7csfslj4rgh5i0

 

you can get a power programer for them. but the turbo would be sweet

 

I've owned many sport quads over the years. Actually dating back to the Tecate 250 and the Honda 250R Tri-days.

The 700 is smother than the 660 in both power delivery and cruising as a result of being a fuely vs. carb. The 660 has been a great quad for me since 2004 and I expect my 08 700 will be the same. The only thing I have ever replaced is general Maintance items. believ me I ride hard but not on a track. Big woods In Michigan - Upper Peninsula for those not from that area.

If your buying the 700 to ride fast trails or dunes it is the ultimate ride. add the full Trinity stage II kit and it will beat the nearly all of the most highly modified quads. It will do fine a tite trails (never over heat) but it is really fun 4th & 5th gear about 4000-6500 RPM's on long sweeping trails 50-100 miles in length.

my all time fav. Duner was the 04 Banshee with a Trinity Stage III Kit. The raptor is just a differnt ride - the Banshee ripped your arms off when you lit the wick and so will the Raptor but in a different way. Raptor is the most reliable quad out there - so if you like to wrench and tinker in a few years buy any bread off 450-525. If you like to ride buy the Raptor.

 

I agree that those should be first, but with a fuel injected bike if you change the intake and exhaust you should also add a programmer at the same time. (same as having to jet a carb bike when adding intake/exhaust)


A few of my friends have them and I've ridden them a few times, they are pretty powerful stock depending on what type of riding you plan on doing. They are very nice bikes though. I agree it is a big bike for some people. I feel like I'm too small for that bike, so I went with an LTR450 (also have a yfz450) and I ride 99% dunes.

I've done K&N intake, HMF pipe and Power Commander 3 programmer on my ltr and it definately made it quicker. Easy and cheap mods to start with for that little boost in power are usually enough for a recreational rider. My friend has a Raptor 700 with a lot of motor work, think he says its about a 780 now, too much for the riding he does and its no longer reliable.

 

what type of riding will you usually do? tight trails? open fields? muddy conditions? what made you want a raptor? the 700's are a whole different animal then the old 660's. the 660's were garbage.
also why do you want to start adding power off the bat?

 

I will be doing most of my riding on trails, dirt rds, and open fields. As far as the power adders go I want to add more power cuz I love speed and thats what I'm use to. I loved the crf 450r and drove it alot but decided on a quad because i think they are more comfortable to ride. However I wanted a quad that was really fast and quick like that bike.

 

sounds like you should probably get a 450 then. They're just as fast as the 700's, but have that powerband that you're used to and handle much better. The raptors are torque monsters and fall on their face after about 6500-7000 RPM so you have to short-shift the hell out of em, unlike the 450's that build power until about 500rpm before the limiter kicks in- around 9000-9500 RPM. Just my .02

 

or you could buy a more reasonable quad like one of the 400cc's, slap on suspension and have a better all around and less maintance ride. you would be faster and more comfortable in the trails on a 400 with suspension and unless your a very competative racer you wont use 1/2 of the power of a 450. the 400's have smoother power and wont wear you out as quick. not to mention shimming/replacing the valves and also having to replace a piston pretty regular on the 450's.

 

You want a quad thats got power like the CRF? Buy a TRX then.

Get a 450 if you're riding trails. The 700 is just too top heavy, especially if you're hauling ass. Get a 450, put a slip on exhaust, air filter, and redo your stock shocks. There are several places that will respring/revalve your stock shocks, but I recommend GT Thunder(especially if you end up buying a YFZ or a Raptor for that matter) He can make a stock shock feel REALLY good for about $700. Or you could spend big bucks and throw down $2,000-$4,000 on a good long travel set up.

This is coming from someone who races a little bit, and trail rides a lot. Good luck with your decision.

 

I agree on the getting suspension part, but the 400s really arent all that fast IMO. Of course, this is my type of regular riding

yep I agree.

I ride mostly dunes and race a little bit of MX, i've got about $3500 into suspension on my quad. Couldnt do shit without it!

 

open dunes and drag racing yes the 400's arent as fast as a 450, but the regular trail rider on a stock 400 with nice shocks will be smoother, a better ride and can be faster with less effort then a 450. most people consider fast in a straight line but when you walk a 450 in the woods on a bone stock 400 the 400 is actually faster. plus maintance will be a whole lot less, a whole lot less, and the quad will be cheaper overall which leaves you more money to mod it.

and since yall stated it, this is comming from somone who has almost 20 yrs of racing and at the national lever, Oval, TT, MX and XC and currently have 6 atv's. my personal choice for trails and xc is one of my 400ex's.

 

Well, i kinda beg to differ. Sure, having a little less power available will be easier on the rider and give less fatigue over a long period of time, but I still think a 450 is better/faster in the woods- if you can handle it. They're obviously a newer chassis design and thus have better overall suspension geometry and ergonomics to start off so I'd say that with the right shock work that a 450 will offer a better ride. And a 450's lighter weight leads to less fatigue from having to muscle around the extra weight that the 400's carry with them as well.

I will have to completely agree on maintenance part though. My 450(which is actually stoked to 471 and fully built) is quite high maintenance. I have to change oil much more often due to the lesser capacity, and also fully rebuild the motor every couple years whereas a 400 will probably run strong for many years with just basic maintenance such as oil changes, air filter cleanings and regular washing and lubing. But in general, the more performance you demand from any machine, the more you can expect to spend maintaining it to keep it functioning at its peak so if you take a 400 or a 450 and put some performance parts on you're gonna have to do more maintenance.

 

The Raptor 700 is a great bike I have an 07 and had a 01 660. liked the 01 but Love the 07. I have moded a lot of the bike.
First mod for every 700 should be the control module the one for the bike cant even adjust to taking the lid off with out fouling plugs or giveing you a engine light warning.
Next go for the pipe and air filter and check local areas for sound decibels and try to abide by them. This will help keep all our riding areas open. Most of the pipes have silecers for them that you can take out for on private land or track.
Also the new 700 is the same height seat as the 450 and handle bars are the same. So top heavy is only with the old 660 which was about 4 inches taller.
The maintenance on the 450 and the 700 are a little more as the valves on the 450 do require shims wheres as the 700 are tappet and are really simple and I check them about every 6 months.
The 450 is quicker and does rev higher but the 700 pulls harder like in the sand and I can lug it around on the trails.
BUT NO REVERSE on the 450. and this does come in quite handy at times.
Prices are bout the same and the new 450 is a whole new chassis and fuel injection so both are great bikes.
400's are going out slowly and not many out there other than the suziki and a honda. Honda air cooled not good. Suziki is a decent bike as DIRT WHEELS did an article on them and they were comparable to the 700 but just not the top end like you want.
SO THERE IS NO COMPARISON FOR CUBIC INCHES. DOnt see to many races being held with 400 unless its small time. Mostly all 450's out there.
SO you half to ask yourself the most bang for your buck and how fast you want to go and reliability. The more you do the more you sacrafice reliability.
Ive been riding for 25 plus yrs 3 wheelers and quads of all makes. So do have quite a bit of experience working on them and riding them.
Going to the Dunes for the whole week of Thanksgiving actually. family of 8 with 3 rapto 700, 450yfz, 2 kawi700 and a raptor 350.
Hope this helps.