This Sh#t Really Pisses Me Off

I guess that guy shouldn't have called attention to himself in the first place. Simple as that.

 

x2 That was an ignorant comment, personally I hope no one ever gets sodomized, except for child mollesters & terrorists they deserve it though.

 

School cops are just a step up from a rent a cop. Someone I knew from HS was a cop for the same school. I drove up there about 7 years ago and stayed with him for a few days. Trust me this does not surprise me one bit, those guys are low lives.

 

You know if you were ever harrased or victimized by a LEO you might fell differently. It is a pretty helpless feeling to know you have no control over the outcome of an altercation even though you have done nothing wrong. I have been pulled over for dating a girl a local cop liked, he told to he could do anything he wanted with me because he was a cop and nobody would take my word over his, but all cops are great guys even if caught on video beating a guy who in my opinion wasnt resisting. I dont believe in bashing someone just for being a LEO, some of them are good guys looking to serve & protect. I think to take the stance that the LEO is always right because he is a cop has alot to do with the blatant abuse of power we now see everyday in this country, these guys should be held to the same standard if not a higher one than everyone else.

 

With all do respect, although admirable, your defense of your friend still makes me shake my head. I appreciate humor as much as the next person but fail to see how that's funny. If it is to you, then you and I will clearly never be friends.

My childhood friend and neighbor was kidnapped (robbed) and sold into a child pornography ring (sodomized) and has never been found...most likely was murdered. That was more than 20 years go. I can assure you, there is nothing funny about that...either to me, his parents or siblings or our community. I can also assure you that they have less respect for law enforcement as a result. Would you like to use that "humor" with a family who has been through that?

The fact is, it's easy to be bravado on the internet. But I also think it's easy to take a second and re-read what you've written and discern if it's necessary or not...or at least if it makes sense, regardless of the medium you choose. And ultimately, some things, especially in a forum like this, should be off limits.

Welcome to reality, not the internet.

 

Funny you should say that because I was robbed, I lost $15,000 worth of stuff in my house, and then my identity was taken from it which led to thousands of dollars. My life was turned upside down because of this. I could barely get my identity back cuz those pricks were more me than I was on paper. The cops in my town did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! They said they couldn't take my case cuz there's not enough "man power". But its funny how I've gotten 2 tickets in the last few months but I cant get my life back the way it was. So to thoses who say I'm imature for my cop bashing and say you need to get robbed to appriciate cops....well I did appriciate them until they didnt do anything for me.

 

All three of these posts cite examples of performance of LEOs that didn't work out the way you wanted....Not that abuse power.

Quote 1: Guess what- Cops CAN say whatever they want and you CAN plead not-guilty, go to court, be cleared, and then even sue for civil rights violations. If you don't do anything illegal-It's really hard for them to make something up.

Cops pretty much are right in the situation- Fighting/Resisting/arguing/trying to do your own thing is just STUPID and it's not going to change the cops mind. I've never met a cop who was talked out of giving someone a ticket...or didn't arrest them cause they walked away. It is a law in most places that you must obey police-So just not being argumentative with them avoids that whole issue. Start arguing or get involved in someone else's police interaction...and you can be completely in the right and still get arrested and charged. That just doesn't make sense...even if it is on principle.

Quote 2: I don't agree with dgs post that started this line of discussion-It was in poor taste. About your story tho: Guess what- Cops are people too and sometimes they can't solve crimes. Losing respect for a group because some perv spent the time to plan that haneous act and a few cops weren't able to solve it is silly.

Quote 3: I seriously doubt you have ever "appreciated" or even respected police. Pretty young people make a "choice" or have a mindset...and it never seems to change.

Did your local police take a report?? Cause my guess is they did- and there was little to no evidence to support a case- and they could see that and made a decision. Your emotional/financial ties to the situation make it nearly impossible for you to see that. Did you get in touch with your banks/insurance companies?? Because even if the police did find the guy- recovering your shit is pretty much on you.

 

Brunes...you are absolutely correct. I agree with you 100% and personally, didn't lose any respect for the police. They are human...and I appreciate that most of them do their very best every day. I also agree that often times victims need someone to blame when they don't get the resolution they desire...and that falls to the police.

As for 98tacoma27, you have an interesting perspective if you feel robbery and sodomy is funny. You also appear to be the only one so far who feels that way.

 

I didn't see any evidence one way or the other out of that vid.

 

He would have been killed for not rolling on his stomache in vietnam (his own country)

 

i think you know what i mean squirrel. in any case, when have you seen this happen?

 

I agree that you cant always trust the news, but you can pretty much tell whats going on in that video. i normally side with cops in a situation like that but this time it looks like they were just being abusive. they continued to abuse him after he was cuffed, which is a big no no. plus, it says that they went to his room and told him not to follow, fuck that! they may have been responding to a call but they dont have a warrant. they didn't have the right to take a tour of the house and look around. i wouldn't let a cop search my house without me watching, how do you know they aren't going to throw a bag of weed in your desk or something? i know i dont have the whole story, but from what i can tell his rights were violated.

if you use taht to get out of jury duty, fine. but if you really believe that you are an idiot. i got arrested for walking home from a bar. the cop stopped me and asked me what i was doing, i said walking home cause i had been to the bars and couldnt drive. he took me to jail for public disorderly conduct. i wasn't being disorderly at all. the point is, cops are not always right.

 

They don't need a warrant in this case- They can see most of the house based on the call. His room might be a bit more questionable- but I'm sure I could articulate PC in a case like this.
His rights weren't violated at all- He was told to do something, he did not do it, then he continued to not follow directions...Resist police (even with a good reason) is resisting. Were there better ways for them to handle it..Sure...That doesn't make it a rights violation.


I was trying to think of a good example for that second quote before....but yours hits it on the head. I'm all for obeying police during first contact...but I'll got to court and/or make official complaints afterwards if a police officer is inappropriate or abusive.

 

My final comments on this...you are correct; I was offended by his comment, not because of an event in my life, but rather by what I felt was inappropriate from a human aspect, regardless of situation. Alone, those topics are not funny to most ordinary people, and in my mind should not be wished upon someone esle. And quite frankly, his comment didn't make sense. As impulsive as his comment was, so was my reaction. I admit to that.

And no, I don't want anyone to police TW...that would be boring. But, as much as someone has the right to offend, so does someone have the right to defend. It's different to say "I hope you get a flat tire" than it is to say "I hope someone sexually violates you". That was my point and I should have made it more clearly. Sorry for the threadjack.

 

Doesn't piss me off at all. The video fails to show all events leading up to the attack. If the guy would have just shut his mouth and complied, situation avoided. I wanted to throw him a beating too just listening to him.

 

the cop who harassed me was a university cop.

yeah, being in cuffs and being pushed into the back of a cop car knowing you did nothing wrong is probably the worst feeling i ever had in my life.

i didn't do anything wrong and i got arrested and charged. if this guy is anything like me, he doesn't have the time or resources to fight the charge. i was a college student walking home from the bars and got taken downtown. i was doing NOTHING but walking. i took the report to a lawyer. as a clemson student you get 1 hour of legal advice for free per semester paid for by the school (pretty cool huh?). he said beating it would be no problem. nowhere in the report did it say anything about being disruptive, or smelling like alcohol, or me stumbling or slurring. apparently none of the key words that are looked for in a report like that were there. but he said it would take time and money to fight. i coulnt' take a semester off and i was broke as hell. all i had was enough student loans to last me the rest of the semester. so i had no choice but to plead no contest and pay the fine. while in court i spoke with a girl who had been arrested by the same officer. she was fighting it. apparently she was sitting on a curb downtown, obviously drunk. the cop came up to her and asked how she was getting home. she pointed to a guy. he said, "i dont like the looks of him" and took her to jail for the night "for her own safety". this cop obviously loves to abuse his power but what is a broke college student gonna do?

 

searching his room which is not in clear sight is not a violation of rights? i'm actually asking cause i just assumed a cop doesn't have carte blanche to do whatever they want in your house without your permission. especially telling you you cannot watch, even in your own home. that doesn't seem right, even in response to a call.

but ignoring all that.... you're telling me that these two fairly large cops could not control this small little asian kid (unarmed and not physically resistant mind you) and needed a taser and repeated beatings with a baton and were standing on him because he was a threat to them? one officer just needed to watch him. if he goes for a gun or a knife or whatever, then tase him. hell, if he's going for a weapon kill him, idont care. but that was just brutal. it was like watching two pitt bulls eat a kitten.

 

Very unnecessary. The kid was on the ground (maybe not on his stomach, but on the ground). He had no weapon. If these "cops" went through any kind of training, they could have gotten cuffs on him without the use of batons, or tasers. Just let him sit there. Shit, hog tie him... But beating him repeatedly with the baton was purely out of anger.

 

"All four officers on the scene were placed on administrative leave last month on the day the grainy video, provided to the Mercury News by Ho's lawyer, first was posted on the newspaper's Web site."


FOUR??? Jesus. These guys are hardcore. Let me guess... 1 guy beats him with a baton, 1 guy tases him, and the other 2 stand on the side and watch?