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Opinions on budget setup

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Flannel_Lover, Dec 22, 2015.

  1. Dec 22, 2015 at 8:35 PM
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    Flannel_Lover

    Flannel_Lover [OP] Your resident questionable advice giver

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    Hello all! I have been debating on what parts I want to use to get my taco a little bit more off road ready. I believe that I have finally settled on the bare essentials, but due to the face that I am new to the game on modifications I would like some opinions on the parts that I'm thinking of.

    First comes the front suspension. as you would expect, Bilstein 5100's with stock coils (for now)
    http://tinyurl.com/gkpjkkd
    I don't think there will be much debating on that decision.

    Onto the rear. A 2 inch Tuff Country Add-a-Leaf. I am aware that a progressive AAL would have a better ride, I just don't have that kind of money.
    http://tinyurl.com/z8lmunb

    Finally onto the tires, I have decided on 285/75R16 BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 tires on the stock steel wheels (Once again for now)
    http://tinyurl.com/julyhsh

    I made a spreadsheet to show the prices of everything, just for shits and giggles
    upload_2015-12-22_23-32-54.jpg





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    Beefier coils of some type
    Hubcentric wheel spacers 1.5-2.25 inch
    Pro-Comp Series 51 Steel wheels (16 Inch)http://tinyurl.com/hnmrvsh
    Light bars, Lots and lots of light bars. :D
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    I think that is it for now, any constructive criticism is welcomed. Thanks!
     
  2. Dec 22, 2015 at 8:44 PM
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    Drew_05Tacoma

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    I don't think 285s on stocks will work
     
  3. Dec 22, 2015 at 9:34 PM
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    I never, ever recommend AALs. I used one one time on a 97 Jeep Cherokee that I built, and that thing was sagging worse than pre-lift within about three months. Essentially, that AAL is just 'renting' you the lifted height, and it won't stay at it for long. I'd recommend saving up for a bit more until you can get a good, solid leaf back. A lot of guys around here use Deaver.

    Someone else chime in if they know a better full leaf pack.
     
  4. Dec 22, 2015 at 9:35 PM
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    As an aside, as a fellow Excel enthusiast, well done, sir! :)

    I use Excel for everything from grocery lists, to pro/con lists, to my finances, etc. My wife makes fun of me all the time for it haha. Most useful tool ever!
     
  5. Dec 23, 2015 at 9:58 AM
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    What do you mean by that? Like not being able to seat the bead or back spacing issues?
     
  6. Dec 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM
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    Yes it is, very useful! I use it almost on a daily basis
     
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  7. Dec 23, 2015 at 10:05 AM
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    This..my AAL lasted 3k of towing/hauling nothing. Save up and get the progressive AAL. Do it one and do it right and don't rush just to get it done; that's how you end up spending more money in the long run..
     
  8. Dec 23, 2015 at 10:19 AM
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    backspacing issue, I believe the 285s would rub the UCAs if ran them on the stock wheels
     
  9. Dec 23, 2015 at 12:58 PM
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    It looks like you could save money on the 5100s by shopping somewhere else. Wheelers has them for $167 for the pair instead of $208.
     
  10. Dec 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM
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    Do you think that could be remedied with a set of spacers? since I'm planning on getting them anyway I have no problem getting a set now. New wheels is just completely out of the question at this point.
     
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    That's good information to hear. the cheaper I can get em, the better I like em! Just looked at Wheelers website, that cuts the price in half considering Wheelers sells them as a pair and SSD sells them individually.
     
  12. Dec 23, 2015 at 4:02 PM
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    Try @HeadStrong Off-Road

    They almost always beat the pricing of Wheeler's.. I saved almost $400 on my kit with Marie, compared to Wheeler's.

    YMMV.

    That said, for a budget lift I went with 5100s at all 4 corners plus the Wheeler's Offroad 3 leaf progressive AAL (more on this at the end). It was all under $500 and rode great, kept my overload in the rear and got 2" lift out back, and ran the 5100s at 1.75" and it looked good IMO, rode nice - road manners were a little wonky though.

    The Wheeler's Offroad 3 leaf progressive AAL is the exact same as the Icon/ToyTec/etc,. 3 leaf progressive AAL - they're all made by the same manufacturer to the same specs and sold with different stickers by each company. Wheeler's was (and likely still is) the cheapest. So, you save $50-60 off the bat by using their branded 3 leaf than the Icon branded 3 leaf, and getting the same end result.
     
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  13. Dec 23, 2015 at 4:58 PM
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  14. Dec 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM
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    dcsbftw what do you mean when you say that it road nice but the road manners were a little wonky?
     
  15. Dec 23, 2015 at 5:18 PM
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    Others have had similar complaints of 5100s at 1.75.

    Alignment was in spec.

    Darting under braking, tendency to wander while driving, follows ruts in roadway.

    I couldn't get a good enough alignment to make it go away.
     
  16. Dec 23, 2015 at 5:22 PM
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    OME 885's,Light Racing UCA's,Bilstein 5100's all the way around, Deaver AAL. Cooper 265/70/17
    I agree.... I did the AAL and regret it. Go full leaf pack or do nothing until you have enough for the full pack.
     
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  17. Dec 23, 2015 at 6:11 PM
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    yep, thats what you need
     
  18. Dec 23, 2015 at 8:01 PM
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    I don't see any labor in your spread sheet or a cost for mount and balance of tires.

    But I do see a split cost line. Santa goes help out??
     
  19. Dec 25, 2015 at 8:50 AM
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    I plan on doing the work myself. as to the mount and balance. I have a connection at the local tire shop that can do them for next to nothing.

    And yes I am hoping to have a little help from my parents, a thousand dollars is a thousand dollars, I'll take all the help I can get.
     
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    image.jpg I have updated my spreadsheet, with prices from the local tire shop. $210 out the door, mounted, ballenced, and installed. Went down to 265/75r16 the price is slightly cheaper now. And the tires come with a nationwide roadside assistance, and free rotation at any "tire pros" location
     

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