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smoke at start up till warmed up

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by westhumboldt, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:12 PM
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    westhumboldt

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    My truck smokes a good bit until warmed up. I Its not mixing oil or coolant. I don't think it is moisture in the exhaust. Anybody have thoughts on what it is diagnosing it?
     
  2. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:16 PM
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    It is white and does not dissipate quickly, after about 5 minutes.
     
  3. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM
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    Its cold here now so I would consider that normal. Unless as mention there is a smell from the fume
     
  4. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM
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    Bad head/gasket. Parts swell as they heat up and close the leak, shrink when they're cool and allow the leak.

    But 'a good bit' is hard to quantify. And how 'cold' is cold? FWIW it's 18 degrees here, no smoke out of my pipe.
     
  5. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:19 PM
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    It is just smoking a lot more then usual.
     
  6. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:20 PM
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    Sounds like a head gasket to me. Go get a leakdown test and make sure they do it when the engine is completely cold and again warned up. That's is generally a solid way to prove it.
     
  7. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:20 PM
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    If a bad head gasket wouldn't the fluids be mixing?
     
  8. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM
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    Not necessarily, head gasket can break many different ways. Between cyls, water jacket to cyl, water jacket to oil gallery, oil to cyl... Many ways to break
     
  9. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM
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    I have had a leak down test about 1000 miles ago all cylinders are great. I will let it cool and start it up and smell the exhaust.
     
  10. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:23 PM
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    Did you have a leakdown or a pressure test. They are very different. You could also have the coolant checked for the presence of combustion gasses.
     
  11. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:24 PM
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    Whats the difference between the two?
     
  12. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:26 PM
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    Leakdown tests where the cylinder is leaking to by pressurizing it with compressed air and listening for the leak in various areas like exhaust pipe, oil cap, radiator, etc. Compression test just checks instant pressure during a cranking sequence not necessarily how well the cylinder can hold pressure.
     
  13. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:28 PM
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    ooo i had a compression test
     
  14. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:30 PM
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    Sorta figured (it's more common for people to mention), that's why I asked. Compression test won't really tell much other than if you engine is super worn out.
     
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    Leakdown is what determined my head gasket had taken a dump. Cost me $150 for the shop to do the test after I left my truck there all night.
     
  16. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:31 PM
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    So is getting a leak down test the proper route to see if it is the head gasket?
     
  17. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:33 PM
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    It's one of the ways, other would be to check for combustion gasses in radiator but it's not as definite. Leakdown can determine if other things are worn too.
     
  18. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:35 PM
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    Could be right, I wish mine was
     
  19. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:37 PM
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    the exhaust does smell sweet. So must be head gasket.
     
  20. Dec 29, 2015 at 3:38 PM
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    Lol how bout a can of ether and a bendy straw?
     

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