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Did Gen 2 have this many issues where they came out?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Jimsc, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. Jan 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM
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    From what I read here, most of the issues are minor in nature.

    I have a couple I consider minor, as in the hood adhesive separation, and lugging at lower rpms. Both of these I can either get fixed or just live with in the case of lugging...

    The vibration at 1800-2500 rpms I don't consider a minor issue. It's quite uncomfortable to drive with. Thankfully most of my driving is around town and I really don't deal with it very much. If for some reason my driving patterns change, I would really push the issue to get fixed or dump the truck. Glad most of you don't have it as an issue.

    There are a handful of negative people here that constantly pollute threads with nonsense or whining, but I think most of the content is not negative. At least the threads I bother to open and read.
     
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  2. Jan 1, 2016 at 7:24 PM
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    None needed.
    The average person may not but a Tacoma owner, and anyone on this web site, certainly would.
     
  3. Jan 2, 2016 at 6:05 AM
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    LOL.

    So, this morning I went to the 2nd gen section. Not bashing, but just on the first page of threads I skimmed/saw threads about wind noise, vibrations, being slow/sluggish off line, gear hunting.

    I don't think the issues described with the 2016 are that unique. Just like the 2016's, a small portion of the 2nd gens have issues as well. And also a portion of the community is complaining.
    :sadviolin:
     
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  4. Jan 2, 2016 at 6:37 AM
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    While I will agree with you, my 6 month old '15 is "old". The fresher front-end and gauges help....but the fact is, I drive a truck that was pinned somewhere between 2002 to 2003 and came out in 2004 as an '05 model. But I still have one big trump card that nearly all gen-2 guys have. TRADE/RESALE VALUE! I'm good friends with the used car manager at the dealership that I buy all of my Toyotas from. Ran I into him when I was picking up my TRD exhaust in September. He said, "Bill, let me know when your ready to trade. I can't get enough used Tacomas. I sell gen-2 Tacos has fast as I can get them, especially 4.0L automatics. Your truck is probably worth nearly what you paid for it. That's just the market on them. It's crazy right now".
     
  5. Jan 2, 2016 at 6:40 AM
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    That's because there's only a 1/2 generation between them, right? Gen-2 and gen-2.5? :rofl:


    I kid....I kid. :thumbsup:
     
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  6. Jan 2, 2016 at 6:41 AM
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    Strangely enough....my wife noticed the difference right away. That woman surprises me sometimes. o_O
     
  7. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:00 AM
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    I've been on a couple of boards where new gens came out, and even on great vehicles there are always a small pile of problems and a huge pile of whining.

    Much of the whining was from people who'd never owned a previous gen of that marquee, were all about buying new for warranty, had never owned a that type of vehicle before (sports cars) and generally were not DIY'rs, so their diagnostic skills of even 'how do I' things were, ummmm, lacking.

    Threads regarding trading a new '15 for a '16, a '16 for another '16, looking to see what the new Ridgeline is like to dump the '16, people asking questions that are in the owners manual, arguing over what Toyota Care means and when to do the first oil change may be indicators that some of that is around here too.

    It will pass. Just like most stones. Painfully. :D
     
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  8. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:08 AM
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    And no @unixadm I never had vibrations... And thats having truck for years..
     
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  9. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:11 AM
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    Butthurt.... that's the go-to word these days for people who get called out but have no intelligent response.
     
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    Question was :
    Did Gen 2 have this many issues where they came out?

    and answer is NO. Not even remotely. The only item that can be even remotely considered startup pain was TRD OR broken diffs and that is a stretch.
    Otherwise it was rather boring lunch. Nothing like current 3gen with engines taken a part, trucks towed on first day of ownership etc.
    Heck 3rd gen section after couple months have the same amount of problems if not more than 2gen section accumulated over 10 years. That is something.
    And that is a fact Jack. People can deny it but the facts are facts. Emperor has no clothes.
     
  11. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM
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    The last thing I am is butthurt my friend. That would imply I give one shit about your opinion or horseshit, which as you can tell by my sarcastic ass response, I do not. Was it worth my time to respond, absolutely because it was FUN!

    Now back to scrubbing my garage floor of all of this damn oil. I've nicknamed my 3rd Gen, Valdez.

    Now I just hope my girlfriend doesn't find out about this "vibrating hood" in the garage.
     
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    That was your post...
    Your village may have different view on that type of "intelligence"..
    :D:thumbsup:
     
  13. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:18 AM
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    You are taking a tiny minority and applying it to tens of thousands of trucks that have been delivered already. And if there was a place to find the date for each generations first year of production, I would bet the first and second gens had at least as many issues in at least the number of trucks as the third generation Tacoma is experiencing. But you're just a hater so keep on hating. It's cheap entertainment.
     
  14. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:18 AM
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    And idiots have no brains.
     
  15. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:23 AM
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    Admittance is first step to recovery...

    Type of Your sarcastic and stupid response is what makes that even funnier.
    Google scans and points to those responses and makes them searchable. Making owners of 3rd gen look like bunch of whining numb nuts. just saying... :D
     
  16. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:47 AM
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    That's me, the village idiot. I get my arm patch this week! Ain't r spicual.

    And who's whining - that would be you. just saying... I'm the guy that's been clowning on you since you arrived in this thread. That's not whining, but your definition is probably different than mine so why mince words?

    Lastly, it wasn't us 3rd gen owners heading over to your sub-forum and posting that you guys are driving the "old model" and what a dated 10 year old POS it is because a new version came out. Let me read your mind... let's see... what is Blueballs thinking.... "They didn't have time... with all the problems they're having." Time! Who has time to do something like that? YOU! I guess you found your 'puter, and thought... hoss, I'll show 'dem lil 3rd gen bastards! I'm gonna rain on their parade. I'm going to do some naughty Search Engine Optimization (SEO) and get these guys to whine and cry about their blowing engines, so no one will ever buy a Tacoma gain. TO THE TOP you go, you little negative forum threads. Now, let me put it to you in simple terms. If people will still buy a Tacoma after this, then I think you're pissing into the wind about trying to use "Google" to hurt us 3rd Gen owners. Nice try though.

    [​IMG]

    And, *hugs*. And I have had a change of heart... your opinion does matter very much to me - it reaffirms just how many dipshits exist in the world. No offense intended, by your definition, I'm right there with ya pal. Now, back to the Valdez.

    ... can't wait for my arm patch!
     
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    Simply go to 2nd gen forums here and go back to the first few threads which I believe we're in 06. Look at the little amount of replies. Compared to every post in the 3rd gen section. Shows how many more people are on these forums and active. You can't say second gens didn't have production issues because a friend of mine bought a brand new 05 when they first came out. Now I don't remember exactly what the issue he had but I know he took his truck twice When he first got it because he came into our shop and would talk to me and my friends for hours because we all had first Gens. He told of the things he liked and disliked about the truck. Overall he loved it and still has it to this day. But I remember him telling us he had two small issue when he first got it. Been a long time since I seen him so not sure if he ran into other problems down the road. Saying no new production vehicle has some type of flaw or issue is just pure ignorance. I've see new vehicle come in with screws laying on the ground, taken them apart with stuff missing, panels loose or installed correctly, harnesses pinched, all sorts of stuff. While this usually isn't one or multiple vehicles in a row, things do happen. Remember people are putting these together. Humans make mistakes. When new models come out the production lines and methods change. Doesn't take much for a person to forget to install screw # 1268 on a few vehicles or a bunch in a row before they realize "oh shit, I forgot about that".

    Now in defense, I will say that I have seen very few things like that on toyotas. Most vehicles brand new I found screws laying in were Chrysler products. (dodge, jeep) l've seen it in Gm, ford, Honda, and a few other vehicles as well.

    And living in an area and having family and friends who worked for both ford and GM at local plants here, I have heard numerous horror story's about things at the plants. But none as bad as seeing my mothers friend who was a full blown alcoholic get walked out of work nearly 2-3 times a week because she was wasted. She would be on her shift for hours before they sent her home. She had a beer fridge next to her bed and would crack open a beer first thing when she woke up. Usually worked 2nd or 3rd shift so was wasted when should would enter work. They never ended up firing her and instead GM paid for her and her family to relocate to a Flint plant. She's still there this day. I think she may have sobered up. Just imagine all the shit she's fucked up over the years!

    So about those 2nd gens that never had any problems...
     
  18. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:58 AM
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    This thread makes leasing ideal. I plan on having a new Tacoma 3 years from now.. Picking up my 3rd gen in less than 6 hours :)
     
  19. Jan 2, 2016 at 7:58 AM
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    Agree. I have a 2015 Charger 392 and it's built like a POS. Seriously - it's a fun car, but it's built like shit. If you look at the 2016 Tacoma and the 2015 Charger, there is NO comparison in the build quality. The Tacoma has everything lined up, solid and attention to detail. On the Charger, I found missing push pins, a door that sits too low, panels line up like crap. But I bought it for doing burnouts and stuff, and that it does well. I just hope it holds together. haha. :)
     
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  20. Jan 2, 2016 at 8:20 AM
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    I guess my point was there are active threads TODAY in the 2nd gen section that really are not all that different. Not sure of any other way to say it.

    Anyways, I'll let you all argue this stuff out, just wanted to point out you don't have to look too far, or too hard to get your own view of differences on (real or perceived) problems with Tacomas. And whiners on both gens.
     
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