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Squeeking from clutch pedal

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by jerseymike, Jan 7, 2016.

  1. Jan 7, 2016 at 12:33 PM
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    I have about 1600 miles on my Taco and everything is great except I notice a spring like squeek noise at the top of the clutch pedal travel. Everthing is working properly but when I release the clutch at the top 20% it makes that noise. has only happened this week in the cold weather but I'm not sure if that is what is causing it.

    anyone have an idea....I'm thinking of lubricating the spring down there but not sure that is the problem.
     
  2. Jan 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM
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    Try lubing it, if it doesn't fix it, the second gen trucks had a squeaky clutch pedal also - you could take it to the dealer at your first oil change and have them fix it.
     
  3. Jan 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM
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    First Gens also have squeaky clutch pedals. It's a bummer that Toyota can't figure this out. But you can't blame them, they've only had like 10+ years.
     
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  4. Jan 7, 2016 at 1:50 PM
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    I have a 16 Taco with manual and it got pretty cold here the last week or so. Cold meaning 10F - pretty cold. What I noticed was my clutch not really working properly just in the cold weather.

    Clutch didn't squeak but the pedal travel was not smooth. It felt like the clutch master cylinder was failing to me. I've had these sort of issues before with other vehicles so I know what that feeling is. Stiff sticky clutch travel then clutch does not return to the resting spot and soon followed by no clutch at all.. Clutch master cylinder failure in its early stage is what it feels like for me. I've got around 2500 miles on mine. Only happens to me when the temps are below say 15F.

    There's not really anything the dealer can do about it preventative wise, cept maybe change to a higher quality clutch fluid before failure!!?? The spring on the pedal probably isn't whats squeaking... from my experience. It's the clutch master cylinder which is directly on the other side of the firewall - rubber seals squeak when they are not performing properly or are worn out.

    Hopefully its just a seal getting hard and not performing as designed.

    My experience with this type of issue is failure. The Clutch master cylinder is probably not made by Toyota (guessing here) and sometimes there are actually more than one company that makes them for Toyota and one master cylinder works better than the other.. end user gets to field test. Solution is to replace with the better unit. Good thing is these are not very expensive parts.

    There are 2 parts to this puzzle - Clutch master cylinder and clutch slave cylinder. The master is right at the clutch pedal, the slave cylinder is down at the transmission. "Usually" problem with one followed shortly ( <year ) by problem with the other.

    For me I think it's the pliability of the rubber seals in the clutch master cylinder due to low temp. I'll have this looked at when I take my truck in for an oil change - could be tomorrow!

    Probably next to impossible to replicate - I'd have to leave my truck at the shop when I know it's going to be cold as balls the next day AND they'd have to start the truck first thing while its still cold.. that's a lot of variables to get right...

    I'll report back.
     
  5. Jan 7, 2016 at 4:00 PM
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    Ok, thanks, it does seem to me that the noise is inside, it also doesn't go away when the truck warms up. Also clutch travel and function seems normal.

    Reading some posts on 2nd Gen manuals it sounds like the same symptoms are very common. A few people have posted minor temp fixes but the general consensus is that if u live with it nothing bad happens.
     
  6. Jan 7, 2016 at 4:43 PM
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    In my experience with my 2nd gen nothing bad happens. I have had the slow clutch pedal on cold mornings, the squeeky spring sound and the throw out bearing chirp since my truck was almost new. Never brought it back to the dealer to have it checked. 255k miles later and it still squeeks, chirps and has slow return when cold. Still on my original clutch and can still chirp the tires going from first to 2nd gear. My 1st gen did it also for its entire life. Its just one of those things you get used to with a manual transmission Tacoma.
     
  7. Jan 7, 2016 at 6:53 PM
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    My 1st gen had this issue and some WD40 fixed it right up. Was squeaking at the arm pivot point.
     
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  8. Jan 22, 2016 at 6:55 PM
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    My clutch pedal squeaks at the pivot point, too. Bearing grease helped temporarily but it keeps coming back. Kinda takes the romanticism out of driving a stick.
     
  9. Jan 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM
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    I'm pretty sure all the Tacoma manuals squeak. I've heard replacing the spring helps but other than that, the romance indeed is dead. Mine will squeak on and off depending on the temp.
     
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  10. Jan 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM
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    Will try WD 40 and see how it goes.
     
  11. Jan 22, 2016 at 7:45 PM
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    Usually a thick lube works for awhile on the 2nd gen, but it got so bad there was a TSB issued.

    I personally can't stand the 2nd gens with loud clutch pedals when I test drive them, but its an expensive fix outside of warranty.

    It's a large reason I didn't get a manual for this model.

    I wouldn't lube it with anything too crazy, just drive it and advise the dealership of it rather than risking an issue with an invalid lubricant.
     
  12. Jan 22, 2016 at 8:04 PM
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    Mine squeaks also, does it more in the summer. It only bothers me when I hear it.:rolleyes:
    2nd gen out of warranty.
     
  13. Jan 22, 2016 at 8:17 PM
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    Bothers me most when I'm trying to look cool for a date and my pedal sounds like an ancient, creaking door. Not a sexy noise at all. What to dooooo.
     
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  14. Jan 22, 2016 at 8:36 PM
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    Go to this thread with your cold weather issues. Seems like it is fairly common.
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/first-concern-with-my-manual-transmission.403660/

    OP. I have not had any squeaks yet with mine and I have 4000 miles. I'd try lubing it up.
     
  15. Jan 22, 2016 at 9:50 PM
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    Turn the music up louder :notsure:
     
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  16. Jan 22, 2016 at 9:51 PM
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    Have this in my 2010. It squeaks and sticks in cold weather. When its really cold the squeaking stays but the stickiness quickly goes away. It has not got better or worst with the history of my truck.

    Really disappointed to hear Toyota did not fix this in the "3rd Gen". Add one more to the list.....
     
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  17. Jan 22, 2016 at 10:17 PM
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    A couple of things. For those with squeaky pivots try a lithium grease, or maybe something with Teflon in it like tri-flow. Remember that unless there is a way for the lube to be held in there it will need to be relubed from time to time. It's called Maintenance.

    As for the slow return of the pedal, the fluid is either DOT 3 or DOT4 brake fluid. Both are alcohol based, only real difference is is boiling point. DOT4 has a higher boiling point. Neither one is rated on cold weather performance, brakes get hot. Also these fluids are hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs water from the environment. This can freeze a clutch system in colder climates. Fluid level is important, do not over fill a clutch master cylinder it can keep a clutch from fully engaging.

    The slave cylinder pushes on the diaphragm spring, levering the clutches friction surface away from the flywheel. As the friction surface wears, it has to travel farther to engage with the flywheel, which levers diaphragm spring against the slave cylinder. The slave cylinder piston is now pushed farther back into its bore moving more fluid in to master cylinder eventually taking up all of the expansion room. Also the fluid expands when hot. So the long and short fluid flushes are good. Keep the fluid level between the Min and Max lines. If it's cold out and your clutch pedal is rock hard do not force it.
     
  18. Jul 31, 2016 at 4:33 PM
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    My clutch pedal started doing this squeaking yesterday. Exactly like the OP says, only on the last 20% of the travel. It's more of a creak or groan as a opposed to a squeak. I got my 5k service coming up next week, and I am going to see if they will try to lube it up, if not I'll do it myself. 4600 miles on the clock.
     
  19. Jul 31, 2016 at 4:44 PM
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    All my Toyota clutch pedals since my LC back in 1974 have squeaked. Whether the dealer lubes it, it always came back anyway so I just did it myself, much easier. Don't know why Toyota gets confounded by the simple things.
     
  20. Jul 31, 2016 at 8:35 PM
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    My clutch pedal started creaking after 10k miles. In the first 20% of pedal engagement. Waiting on 15k service to fix if I don't go crazy first
     

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