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ECT Power button disables Atkinson Cycle ? I think so

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Suehog60, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. Jan 16, 2016 at 7:59 PM
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    Toyota's answer to Honda was VVTL-i, yes it does lift..

    btw, for simplicities sake, a dyno measures horsepower... try explaining the James Watts Torque calculation for horsepower to everyone.
     
  2. Jan 16, 2016 at 8:01 PM
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    No matter how you cut it, at the end of the day all those fancy valve train systems are simply manipulating the air, fuel and exhaust flow in and out of the cylinder.
     
  3. Jan 16, 2016 at 8:02 PM
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    Your turn: Toy is right. Torque is measured, horsepower is calculated.

    Before you start puffing your chest about all of your Dyno time, I've probably done more dyno time in one month than you've done ever.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2016 at 8:03 PM
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    Its called a 2-stroke motor
     
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    Calculation key word there. A dyno measures torque and rpm and you CALCULATE horsepower
     
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    so you like to explain how horsepower is measured 'calculated' to every customer you deal with?
     
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    No shit? Thanks for clearing that up...
     
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    That sentence doesn't even make sense. Horsepower is calculated - accept it.
     
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    I'm not denying and never have.. Do you do dyno services for customer or just for yourself? If you do it for customers, do you take the time to explain to each customer what the Horsepower reading on the dyno really means?
     
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    I've done both - for customers for a living, and for myself. If they ask, I'll explain. If the don't (they usually dont) then I don't get into it. What does that matter?
     
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    I'm with you on that one - plenty of disinformation on this thread to go around.
     
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    the problem here is he seems to want to compare technology used by toyota with something much more advanced by another auto maker. toyota uses cam phasing, which is just change when lift and duration happen, not actually changing the amount of lift or duration. Since we are speaking of Toyota, anything else is really irrelevant in this argument.
     
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    It matters because you just explained my answer about horsepower measurement on a dyno. My answer was targeted a @gottaToy who doesn't seem to understand much about engine tuning. If I know I'm talking to someone who has a better understanding of these things I will also give a more detailed answer. Besides this is not a thread about dyno's now is it?
     
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    Our troll friend @gottaToy is fishing for questions to discredit me and keeps failing IMO. I've been around plenty of Auto, Motorcycle and super expensive Engine dyno's and if you know how a dyno works you mainly ignore Horsepower readings, but if your showing someone who knows nothing about engine tuning you say 'hey check out the horsepower' an their jaw drops.. I compare it to bling, something shiny to show off.
     
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    It's just humorous because taquito and toy kept trying to one-up each other on their tech arguments while also posting some incorrect shit at the same time. It's all gotten WAY off topic at this point...
     
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    @Daytona Coupe I post questions and theories based on my past experiences. I welcome responses that seem logical and hopefully backed by some hard evidence. toy troll has never given me any answers on this thread or the other ETC thread that make any sense. IF you have some answers or corrections for me, please share.
     
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    I can bait him all night long
     
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    Copy that. The trouble is, some of this isn't really known by anybody here, but people dig in and insist something is a certain way even though they really have no idea. The guy that said "we're guessing" was probably the most correct of all.
     
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    Most of the real answers on the 2GR-FKS will be found in the factory service manual. I like to study assembly diagrams and troubleshooting steps to gain an understanding of what is really happening. Most of my experience in this has been in the older Honda VTech motors, VW, Ducati Desmodronic, 2-strokes and old american v-8's.

    For now all we can really do is theorize.
     
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