TPMS for multiple wheel sets 3rd gen

Here is what I have learned so far collected in one place for others:

• If you want to have a second set of wheels and need sensors you can either pay the stealership about $400 or you can search ebay for part number PMV-C015. There are some on there but not many.
• There are two different stem angles, 20 degrees and 40 degrees for alloys or steelies respectively but if you get the wrong angle you can rotate the sensor and it will still fit although the sensor will be sticking up and may be damaged if you get a flat tire.
• The tacoma apparently only supports 5 sensor IDs, allowing for the 4 wheels on the truck plus a spare.
• As of this writing no one is making cloneable sensors for the 2016 so the only option is to switch out the codes in the computer when you change out your winter tires for summer and vice versa.
• As of this writing the various TPMS tools have not been updated for the 2016 Tacoma however telling the tool that the vehicle is a 2015 Camry allows you to both read and write to the ECU
• The ATEQ Quickset tool is capable of reprogramming the sensor IDs in the truck and only costs $120. I found this to be quick and easy once I had the tool. It is vital that you know your sensor IDs for this to work as it will not read the sensors via RF through the tire, it will only read and write from the computer. Make sure you write down your sensor IDs before the tire shop mounts and balances your tires.
• If you need to read the sensors on tires that are already mounted and balanced the Snap-on TPMS tool is capable of reading them through the tire. Find a shop that has one and ask them to read the sensors for you. Tell them to set the tool to 2015 Camry.
• As of this writing TIS will not update the TPMS sensors in the computer.

If anyone knows anything about this or if I have anything wrong in my text above please reply to the thread and I will update this post. Hopefully gathering all of this in one place will save others the hassle I have been through trying to figure it all out. The tire shop I went to told me they could do it and then discovered they were wrong and needed the codes. I went and got the codes for them and then then found out they can't even get the sensors. I bought the sensors on ebay and brought them to them and they told me they couldn't program the computer (after telling me they could, the truth is that they don't know how to run their own tool...). so, your mileage may vary but I would rather be in control of my own destiny than have to rely on them and now I can change my tires out on my own time and not have the light on.

credit to @unixadm for figuring out the part numbers of the sensors above.

 

Interested in picking a tool as well!!!

 

Good info.

 

Thanks for the tag.

I believe this is the tool Discount Tire uses: http://www.autelonline.com/autel-maxitpms-ts501-tpms-diagnostic-and-service-tool_p6.html

This tool did work on my 2016 Tacoma when they updated the sensor values. It required the latest update from Autel.

 

So for all the hassle of getting the TPMS reprogrammed correctly let alone if the installer breaks one, it sounds to me having the dealer swap out tires and sensors may be a better option.
I had Les Schwab quote me $160-$190 to do the swap, how much more would dealer be? Without headaches

 

Right, but that cost is twice a year for me. If I can get a tool for $100 or so (which would be possible on a second gen) it would save a lot over the life of the tires.

 

Sorry I was thinking of a 1x event, didnt mean to jack the thread. But when I get my wheels I will look into dealer costs and Schwab to verify they wont hose my sensors

 

Who needs TPMS, If you plan on changing wheels during seasons just go without it for the season that's the shortest. Nothing hard about checking the air in your tires. Your paying a lot of $$$$ for the luxury and to not worth the cost. $.02

 

Good point!

 

This is, of course, a valid perspective. I would say that if there is no option other than paying twice a year to change the sensor IDs in the computer I will probably go this route however considering that I can get 4 OEM sensors for $130 from ebay and will hopefully be able to use a $120 tool (http://www.tirerack.com/accessories...and=ATEQ&cat=Tire+Pressure+Monitoring+Systems) that isn't that much to get this feature to work. I greatly appreciate the early warning provided by TPMS. I had a slow leak on my A4 which was not equipped with TPMS (it is an older model) and I found out when it was flat enough that I had to deal with it immediately. If I had TPMS I would have found out when there was still enough pressure that I could deal with it at a more convenient time.

 

My friend owns a Tundra and consequently browses various Tundra forums. He clued me into this trick that they're doing all the time with the TPMS - tossing them all into a sealed piece of pvc, pressurizing the whole thing to 32lbs, and tossing it under the seat. That way they can swap wheels when they change road surface and don't have to worry about warning lights/beeps/traction control issues.

 

Me! I like to have it but I will concede you do not have to have it. FWIW, TPMS saved the tire and very possibly the OEM rim during a trip and that would be right about $500. It lit off on the freeway and I was able to get to the next exit, air up and make it over to a service center before it ever went totally flat.

 

I'm adding this to my oxymoron list, right after jumbo shrimp.

 

For more on this saga:

I took the truck to my local tire shop to have my tires mounted and balanced. They tried but failed to program my truck as a 2015 Camry with a Snap-on tool. I theorize that they don't know how to run their tool as it sounds like Discount Tire was sucessful with the Autel. Perhaps the Autel is better than the Snap-on but I kind of doubt it. I bought the ATEQ quickset and it should be here on Thursday. When I have it in hand I will try to reset the codes myself and see what happens. I'll let everyone know if it works or not. FWIW, if it had worked at the local place they only would have charged me $20 each time they change it over and for that price they would have switched out the wheels and the codes. At that price I would have let them do it but as of right now I already bought sensors and I only have another week or two to send them back for a refund if they don't work so I don't want to wait it out and hope that snap-on releases and update and that my sensors are still good by next spring. I also am a tool nerd and like owning tools even if I don't use them a whole lot so now I own one more

 

And, I'm done!

My ATEQ quickset came in and I set it to think the truck was a 2015 Camry. It read the existing IDs out of the truck just fine. I stored them as the summer tire IDs and then entered the IDs that I had read off the new sensors before they were installed as the winter IDs. Plugged it in and pushed the winter button and a minute or two later the light went out. The dash display was still showing dashes on the individual wheels so I took a drive and at 2.4 miles it started reading pressures. The tool works and now I have the ability to change back and forth myself without relying on the bozos from the local tire shop nor paying the stealership!

 

Sorry for the bump, but I really liked all the info you provided here.

Just to confirm, the ATEQ cannot read new sensors unless you enter in the IDs manually?

 

damn! Meineke did a great job and the cost was $88 bucks.

 

That is correct. The ATEQ will read the sensor IDs out of the computer for the sensors that the truck already knows about but it can't read a sensor that hasn't been programmed in yet. You either need to already know the ID of your new sensor or you need the other tool which can ping the sensors itself. The tire store had that tool and when set as a 2015 Camry they were able to read the sensor.

Since I wrote the original article the ATEQ got an update and now has the 2016 Tacoma as an option so you no longer need to tell it that it is a Camry.

 

Anyone have anymore problems with the to tpms, the oem system is a PITA. Replaced tires and no go. Truck won't recognize new sensor. Tire shop is all confused.

 

Some additional part number info @J-Rock that maybe good for the OP. The 3rd gen Tacoma's with alloy wheels use Toyota part Number 42607-06030, also known as you pointed out as PMV-C015 Sensors. They accordingly use the repair kit 04423-0E010 and the sensor nut SU003-02897. Searching these part numbers will return results and sales from different Toyota parts vendors online. The sensors are around $55 new and the kits and nuts are about $5. The Toyota sensors do not come with nuts, you'll need that part as well if you want a totally new set.

Also a question: Can Toyota provide the sensor ID's from the tires when I purchase the truck? They should be able to read them somehow and give them to me so I can pass them on when I sell the tires correct?

And Last question: How does the truck now what tire is in what location. We have individual tire read outs, but what happens when you rotate the tires, or want to rotate on a 5 tire rotation using the spare?