First oil change look what I found in oil

If it helps you sleep at night. Go for it.

 

So much paranoia ... Warranties are your friend.

 

I was being sarcastic.

I'm certain that botched oil changes cause more engine failures than waiting until the manufacturer's first recommended interval.

Oil changes at 500, 1000, 1500, etc are not based on any sort of science. If there was some defect that would prevent the filter and oil sump from doing its job, it would manifest before you've revved the engine ~1,000,000 times (that is the rough ballpark of how many times the crankshaft has rotated and pulled oil through the pump and bearing surfaces over 500 miles).

 

chances are, the engine will make it out of warranty even if you only change the oil once or twice. But by being diligent with your maintenance, you are helping it last 300k+

 

Sorry man. Just read so many posts I mistook you for another troll. Have a good day.

Looks like some snow is headed your way in a couple days. Suppose to get 1 to 3" here tonight.

 

You guys are really bad at this. I just buy a new vehicle every 5000 miles like Steve Jobs. I don't think I've ever changed my oil.

 

I was trolling to a degree. Haha

I imagine that the MINI and FR-S will be sleeping in the garage this weekend. 4Runner will be getting all the miles.

 

i put magnets on all my oil filters

 

Wish I had a garage. I would feel like I was shittin in pretty high cotton.

 

Lol guys.
Update. I got it changed. I figured the oil industry needed my help right now.
p.s. In my pic is my old 2000 truck (traded-in) and my new truck.
The old one had around 220,000 miles on it.
Cheers.

 

So you could do it yourself, but paid $15 to help a guy do it with you. Allowed you to do it?

I don't even need to jack up my 5-lug let alone ramps to change the oil, just get under there and do it. Your "indy" has to be laughing inside.

 

Looks about right!
On new cars/bikes, I change my oil at 20, 60, 500 and 3,000 with Dino... then again at 6,000 with full synthetic and go from there.
Those first 20 miles are brutal... just playing it safe with an expensive investment.

 

Misspoke when I wrote about "helping" him. Basically he let me stand in the bay (large operation) while the truck is on the lift and he does the change. Most places won't let the customers go into the shop area because of liability issues much less let you supply the oil and filters. My help consisted of taking the skid plate from him after he took it off (I then wiped out the inside) and handing it back to him when he was ready to finish. Yes, he might be laughing inside but here's the way I look at it... If I did it myself I would have to get my ramps out, remove the skid plate, drain the oil and change the filter, clean everything thoroughly with brake cleaner, reinstall the skid plate, and then dispose of the oil containers and old oil. I'm not that fast so I figure it would take me at least 45 minutes not including the trip to dispose of the old oil. That works out to saving about $15 an hour. My time is worth MUCH more than that to me--but again, that's my opinion and that and $.75 will get me a senior Coke at McDonalds. Obviously that gives a hint to my age and at this stage of my life I don't feel like crawling under a truck. I got enough of that installing the Raptor 4" Oval Bars by myself. Asked my wife to help but she said to f*** off. What she actually said was "not today" which is female talk for "f*** off.

 

If that works for you great, but I'd point out that you went and purchased the oil and filter, which is equal to the time spent dropping off the used oil. You spent the time it takes to change the oil standing there watching so you didn't save any time? You drove to the "indy" as well.

No way you spent any less time than doing it yourself.

No need to crawl or use ramps, even my 5-lug is high enough to access with a creeper. No clean up needed with a good catch pan and an absorbent throw away paper towel.

At your age are you really that busy? Do you really need that skid plate back on?

 

Should just let this go but WTF! Oil filters-Toyota OEM-case of 5 bought on-line (Amazon). Time: 5 minutes ($24).
Oil-4-5 quart units of Mobil 0-20W ($26.70 per)-enough for 4 changes. Time: 20 minutes including drive to and from Walmart. Getting to watch it done with minor help: 20 minutes/fun-$15. Drive to nearest Toyota dealer: 80 miles round trip for "free service" (plus don't trust them for a minute to do an oil change). Also did not have to buy a good catch pan and absorbent towels.

"At my age am I really that busy?": Actually just turned 70 and am very busy! Part-time lecturer at local university (retired from full-time teaching at 68), build starter homes with my son (I'm the trim guy although putting crown molding on 9 foot ceilings is getting to me!), ride my Harley when the weather is good (I'm a p**** and don't ride when temp is 60 or below which is not that often where we live), go to our beach house (wife loves it and I tolerate it) on weekends, and I just bought a lot in Dillosboro, NC where I plan to build a mountain cabin shortly (I love it and wife tolerates it). Busy...probably not by your standards but everyday seems to rip by...as do the years.

"Do I really need that skid plate back on?" Probably not...never figured out why they put them on in the first place for general use vehicles. Even my wife's 350 RX has one (although a removal plate to get to the oil filter). My Tacoma will NEVER see off road (unless I have no choice) but the "indy" said to always put it back on. I sold my 12' TRD Tundra to buy the Tacoma (BIG difference in the two!) and the skid plate on it was a real PITA to remove and put back on. It was 2-3 times the weight of the one on the Tacoma. If I left it off I would probably hit something on a highway and do damage to the under parts of the truck. I did that with the Tundra and all it did was leave residue on the skid plate. BTW-I did stop and speak to the dog's owner.

Bottom line: I write all this not as a "fire back to you". You make very good points and if I was your age (guessing you are less than 1/2 my age), I would probably be a automotive DIY like you. And I figure my time is worth somewhere between $60-$70 per hour so any time I spend not generating income costs me...but you got to do what you feel is best for you and what you enjoy doing. I have enjoyed reading your posts and you certainly know your Tacomas! I wouldn't mind tipping a "cold one" with you someday.

As tell my students..,you are never to old to learn and this Forum has been great in that respect for me (example-didn't realize there are so many issues with the 16' Tacoma such as wind noise, vibrating hoods, leaking, weather strip problems, ATF fluid, un-greased fittings, misaligned beds, loose U-joint bolts, just to name a few). Fortunately, my new Tacoma has not experienced those--yet.

P.S. Others reading this post will probably say...you need to be posting in the 50+ thread--I do.

 

You're way off on my age, 53. Been a car guy all my life, changing oil on my dads car when I was 14, and work on my Challenger convertible which I've owned for 23 years, 66 Charger before that.

I'm Plant Engineer at Avery brewery, I'll buy the beer.

If you road trip my way we can change your oil together.