What the heck were they thinking?

OZ-T · Feb 1, 2016

OP posts a negative opinion of the 3rd gen

Well gets the pitchforks , light the torches and circle the fanboi wagons , we got a heathen in our midst

little_mule · Feb 1, 2016

Good comeback stupid-face

little_mule · Feb 1, 2016

Op posted a negative opinion based on a TESTDRIVE

OZ-T · Feb 1, 2016

Everybody has an opinion , don't get your panties too knotted up over it

little_mule · Feb 1, 2016

I dont wear panties because too much friction,

Kelvin · Feb 1, 2016

OZ-T said: ↑

Everybody has an opinion , don't get your panties too knotted up over it
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Seriously. Why does one man's opinion matter so much?

The last girl I dated called my 4runner and Lexus "ugly old pieces of junk". That wasn't enough for me to let out the butt hurt.

TOY33 · Feb 1, 2016

My opinion is the hood's too long and def houses a weaker engine now. Other than that the 16 looks awesome minus the missing grab handle.

(shouldn't be hard to install a handle back ... just the principle)

little_mule · Feb 1, 2016

My opinions everyones a crybaby and if u got goldplated pussy you still complain, meh not really but that sounds Really good

James_Bond · Feb 1, 2016

I've heard that the new 3.5 has devastating low amount of power, 270hp to be exact. But I've also seen that pussy engine beat the diesel twins at towing...

little_mule · Feb 1, 2016

I bet they (tha twins) are awesome trucks, but the way i grew up. I am biased to toyota and nissan, had a excellent superduty derzul" for awhile

James_Bond · Feb 1, 2016

little_mule said: ↑

I bet they are awesome trucks, but the way i grew up. I am biased to toyota and nissan, had a excellent superduty derzul" for awhile
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I agree. Diesels are hands down the best towing power but you can only get that on a big displacement engine with a turbo. At which point you'll be looking at a HD oversized truck.

These tacos arent meant for towing ridiculous loads and they aren't race cars either.

People who are hating this truck have totally missed the concept of what this truck is meant for. Weekend home Depot trips and camping trails.

little_mule · Feb 1, 2016

No its california emissions standards which keep diesels from being sold here!!!!

little_mule · Feb 1, 2016

Its CAFE!!!!!!!!

OZ-T · Feb 1, 2016

little_mule said: ↑

No its california emissions standards which keep diesels from being sold here!!!!
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There's no diesel vehicles in the US , ie small trucks / cars ?

Heepspo · Feb 1, 2016

r1scooter[OP] initial post: ↑

I've owned, and loved, Toyota trucks since '86. There has never been a day in my life since I've had a drivers license that I didn't park a Toyota pickup in my garage: 2 old Hilux's, 6 tacoma's (3 1st gens, 3 2nd gens), a 2001 Tundra (total POS that should have never seen pavement), and a Paseo. I still drive my '08 doublecab every day. I've lived through the ups and downs of driveline shimmy in all the 2nd gens, and finally solved the last one myself. Needless to say I'm emotionally invested in the Toyota brand, and well versed in the quirks they've had over the years.

I'm afraid that may soon change. I test drove a 2016 Doublecab 4x4 limited today, and all I can do is shake my head.

I've waited on a tacoma update for several years, always thinking they'd put the 4runner v-8 in one, or give the 4.0 at least a little modernizing, maybe even the dual vvt-i from the 4runner. Instead, I'm now seriously thinking about a changing brands. They've ruined several of the things I loved about the taco. The new, higher snout makes it harder to see in front of the truck, it still has horrible brake feel (but better than my '08), drum brakes in the rear. You cant get an e-lock rear diff in a sport model, and a $40k truck that has mud flaps as an option, but has a go-pro mount standard? WTF?!?! The idiocy of the mount being heralded as having ANY value is just beyond me.

I still cant get my ATV in the back because the wheel well width is still only 42" wide. The lower dash on the passenger side is too low and hits your knees if you're moved up any at all for a rear passenger to fit. Not to mention the new front end is butt ugly.

But the real deal breaker is the motor. How any marketing engineer, or demographic researcher ever thought this engine was a good idea is ridiculous, and they aren't worthy of sweeping the floors at Dodge. I honestly thought I had accidentally locked it in too high of a gear. And at highway speed, (around 2000 rpm) the steering wheel had this strange high frequency vibration. Not a shimmy like my 2nd gens, just an annoying tingle. My wife said she felt it in the passengers side too. It will scoot at high rpms, albeit really no better than the 4.0 does. All other things being equal, I'd be extremely surprised if the new taco wouldn't get eaten alive out of the hole by the old 4.0 in the real world. They've turned it into a honda civic truck. It only has power when you're wringing the poor things neck. All for 2mpg? The transmission downshifted every time something that looked like a incline was in front of it. Back and forth, back and forth, constantly shifting. I wanted to toss a couple of adderal pills in the atf fluid after about 10 minutes.

The truck is absolutely quieter, the seats are higher, and the fabric is better. And it positively rides better than my '08. I also like the center console hand brake. The tailgate is also much stronger, and the dampener is really nice. But that's about it.

So what is boils down to is the same old taco, a little quieter, a little better riding, a little better MPG, a little more comfy, with a no-torque high strung motor and a hyperactive transmission trying to hide that fact.

I've driven toyotas all my life, almost 30 years. I'd like to keep it that way, but the 2016 is a no-go for me.

That being said, anybody know where I can find a new 2015 Magnetic grey, double cab short bed, trd sport 4x4 with a grey interior and tow package?
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Maybe...... Don't buy it?
Problem solved! (you're welcome)

because_wumbo-truck · Feb 2, 2016

OZ-T said: ↑

There's no diesel vehicles in the US , ie small trucks / cars ?
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Few and far between

viking15 · Feb 2, 2016

OffsetPlayer2 said: ↑

Personally I came from a 2011 to my 2016. Loved it since day 1. Sure it was a change but in the end it's way better personally. If you don't like it then don't get it. When you come up here posting like that it only makes you sound ignorant. I still don't understand why so many people come up here on the third gen and try to bash as much as they can. If you're happy with the second gen, great. Go post your thoughts there and be done with it. I have a feeling more and more new vehicles are going to start feeling like this. Low end power will be slim to assist with gas mileage and the upper power will be there for passing and things like that. Yes the etc button does make a huge difference in throttle response and help the gear hunting. Now that I've got 3800 miles on mine, it drives so much better. I wouldn't go back to my 2011 if I had the choice. Keep saying what you want but the horse is pretty damn dead by now. Let's beat it to a pulp to make everyone happy. Call me a third gen fan boy if you want but that's just how it is. I've had both and prefer my '16.
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You are correct With the new mandated gasoline law MPG that cars and trucks must reach by 2025 I would also suspect that more new cars and trucks will perform like this. We just need to start getting use to it

smitty99 · Feb 2, 2016

over60 said: ↑

[QUOTE="uood8, post: 11713158, member: 18086 Making the truck hold 80mph on even the slightest grade is a struggle.
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What the hell R U doing driving 80 MPH..?? A lawman and all..??

Hell if U want to go that fast...go to the track man..!!

Slow down and get in tune with the Taco....!! [/QUOTE]
The speed limit in some states is 80 to 85. Utah and Texas come to mind immediately.

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